28.1 Disney World's 7 Worst Rides (Magic Version)

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[00:01:57] But the content is there We hope you love and enjoy it And thanks so much for tuning in And being understanding What's up everyone? Welcome back to another episode I am your host, Allie I'm here today with Stacey and Katie And it's going to be such a fun one today How are you guys doing? Doing great How are y'all? I am so excited for this episode today This is going to be so fun I know Here's the thing

[00:02:26] Everybody knows I love Disney I love talking Disney Obviously we do it every single week Here on the show I like to talk about the things That are less than perfect At Disney Not everything is going to Knock it out of the park Not everything is going to be amazing And today We're going to shine a light On a couple of rides That we feel like missed the mark And if you don't have All of the time in the world Well, let's be real Nobody has all of the time in the world To do every single thing At Disney World It's never going to happen In a single trip Unless you have

[00:02:56] A two week trip planned And you know You're doing park open to park close Every single day You're not going to do it all So knowing that our listeners Have limited time in the parks We are going to find The seven rides That we think are the worst At Disney World That we think If you are limited in your time Skip these rides Skip these attractions Don't bother It's not going to make your time Less than But I got to thinking about it And this is opinion based Or fact based We're going to kind of figure out

[00:03:26] Right? We've ridden all these And even though some of it is Formulated off of our opinions It's also rooted in Hey we've seen what Disney can do And this is not it And I was thinking about How we talk all the time About Skyline Chili here In Cincinnati Right? And how I just love it so much And I would say This is the top food That you must try And you all would say That is a bottom food That you should absolutely skip And then I got nervous I have tried it You have tried it

[00:03:55] Because I held you down And shoved it But it started to make me nervous Because I have these strong opinions That I feel are rooted In some truth and fact And I'm worried That you all are going to skyline me And say that You know A ride is better Than I may think it is And I was thinking What are your You know Red flags in your life That you're like No this is great And nobody's going To tell me otherwise Oh I feel like

[00:04:25] In society Just us being Quote unquote Disney adults We kind of feel it All the time Don't we So Because I feel like That is what What is it that I Do or talk about Too much That is like Okay Red flag It would definitely Be how much I talk about Disney World Or how often I go And let me tell you Something about that The Disney adult Commentary Is not new And it is not fresh Okay We understand That the take On a Disney adult Is it's you know A weird thing

[00:04:54] Or whatever First of all If you're an adult And you don't like Going to Oga's Cantina With your buddies And having a fuzzy tauntaun That is fun If you don't like Going to Trader Sam's With adults And not having your kids You can't even go To Trader Sam's With your kids in tow After a certain hour I love taking my kids To Disney But if I can go To the Be Our Guest Lounge Without them I'm going to pick that Over taking them With me Do you mean Enchanted Rose You mean Enchanted Rose I mean Enchanted Rose I'm just I'm just saying

[00:05:24] That whether Your kids are there Or not It can be super Magical and fun And there is A whole secret Disney world That the people That are judging The Disney adults They don't know About it And you know What That's fine Let's keep them In the dark About it That's great I'm sure that I do Have food Red flags Or something like that But I have What I call The food sads You know how Like people get Hangry whenever You're hungry And you just Gotta eat something I have had The food sads For going on

[00:05:54] Three years now Because back home In western Pennsylvania I knew exactly What I wanted I wanted to go To my favorite Mom and pop Pizza place That put like Steak and fries On the pizza I wanted to go And have Pierogies made From the ladies Doing the fundraiser At the firehouse Right That's what I want I want really good Comfort food And Pittsburgh Is just so great For that But I have had The food sads For all this time

[00:06:24] Yeah All of our red flags Have to do with food Because we're so Perfectly normal Otherwise Yeah We're not quirky In any other way Yeah Exactly You know that thing People used to say You'd be like She's a 10 But you know For me It'd be like She's a 10 But she eats Chili on her spaghetti Which is perfect For me I love it So I'm excited Because clearly We I would never Talk y'all Into leaving My favorite food Off of a bottom Foods list So I'm looking forward

[00:06:53] To the conversation Regarding these rides Today And I think It's going to give Great perspective One of the things People say all the time Our regular listeners Is they love The different perspectives And the different ways That we look at things And I'm really looking forward To seeing what rides Made my list That maybe didn't make yours And seeing which ones cross And how we can convert Each other into Agreeing that mine should be On the bottom list Okay So we're going to take A quick break We come back

[00:07:22] We're going to Talk through The worst rides And attractions At Walt Disney World Talk exactly about What an attraction Or a ride is At Walt Disney World And come up with A list of things You can avoid Once you are there Hey wait wait wait I know you're ready To get back to the podcast But I've got something Very simple for you to do Join my Facebook group Disney Planning Made Simple I'm Stacey One of your podcast hosts And I have a sweet Friendly Facebook group

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[00:08:50] What's going to be On your list Here in the bottom Before we dig in Here's the way This is going to work A ride Which is what We are specifically Talking about today Has to be Something where Your seat Moves So if you sit down For the experience And you move From the point You started Even if you Ended the same place You must move From start to finish That is how We are classifying A ride And how we Differentiated

[00:09:20] Between any other Experience or attraction At Walt Disney World We are going to Take turns Giving one of the Rides off of our Lists Debating whether Or not we agree It should be On the seven list If we know for sure We all agree And this attraction And this ride Excuse me Deserves a place On the list We'll go ahead And put it there If we're not sure What's to come And it may or may not Be a bottom seven We're going to put it In the standby queue And then we will Revisit those at the end So we come up With our top seven list You're going to want

[00:09:50] To stay here To the very end To find out What are the bottom Seven Rides at Walt Disney World I want Stacey to start There should be Less pressure But I automatically Jump into this Fantasyland draft Mode right I feel like this is Some sort of competition That I have to win To convince you So I try to Pick the right order All right Let me start with I think one Pretty simple That we'll agree on We can all be Very thankful Becky is not on This one to argue Because I believe

[00:10:19] The three of us Will agree that Mission Space Should be on this list Of worst rides It is the only ride At Disney World That is continuously Warning you Do not get on this ride If you have any type Of motion sickness Do not get on this ride This may cause Motion sickness Not only Is the risk Of motion sickness There The ride Okay There are some Cool factors To it In that It's the idea Of you're going Into space And you have

[00:10:49] That gravity Feeling But it is a Very claustrophobic I don't know It's just terrible Honestly It's terrible And I feel like I have you You ladies On board for this Am I right In my assumptions It's absolutely On my list I did say Mission Space Orange Specifically Because that is The bad Bad one This checks Every box That you would Need it to To say This is why This ride is bad It is As you said A tight space You cannot

[00:11:18] Get out of it You cannot move It is the ride I've said this before It is the ride That says Don't ride me The longer you wait In the queue The more it says Seriously What are you thinking Don't ride Like turn around You're going We're not kidding Yeah we're not kidding Like if you continue You're going to get sick The adult That can handle This ride Because I've noticed That as I've gotten older As I've become an adult My stomach gets weaker And it makes me so sad Right Because we just rode Rock and roller coaster Together And I

[00:11:48] I'm not anywhere close To not being able To ride that But for the first time I was a twinge Of uncomfortable And that's never Happened to me And I noticed A little bit more Every time I go to Disney And I'm like Oh man this stinks This is terrible Mission Space Orange I don't know Any adults That can weather That storm It is a no It is so hard On your stomach It is so hard On your eyes It is so hard On your well-being You can't close your eyes To get out of it You can't You know

[00:12:17] I do the deep exhale When my stomach Starts to get really Uncomfortable on rides You can't even do that I close my eyes And do the exhale This would have The reverse effect On that ride It's not It's not the one It's a no for me Yeah I'm gonna agree With you as well My kids love Mission Space Green And we span it And they love to play In the playground After Mission Space But Mission Space Orange Is probably The single worst ride At Disney World It's the only one That they actually

[00:12:47] Have barf bags Ready for you Inside the ride Ugh They know that You're gonna have A hard time on it I am not someone Who is prone To motion sickness I am not someone Who is prone To feeling claustrophobic And I felt instant panic As soon as they Shut the door I was like Oh boy And then like you said Allie Like you can't Close your eyes They tell you You have to look At the screen Or it will be Worse for you And so you're like I just have to Weather through Man That's a one and done

[00:13:16] I think it's important That we say Orange is the one Going on the list Because green Is its own category And if you really want Any sort of space experience And you don't want to Have your whole day ruined Go on green It's fine I wouldn't call it A great ride But I would call it fine Mission Space Orange Is on the list For sure All right I have one I don't know If it's gonna be Controversial or not I don't think It should be controversial But I honestly Don't know Where you all Stand with it And we've never Ridden it together I think one of

[00:13:46] The worst rides At Disney Is Figment The journey Into the imagination That is a really Weird Weird Weird Situation Okay Is that all you have To build your case Is it's weird This is a weird situation And I don't It's like a journey Into somebody else's Imagination That is not what My imagination Is like It's a journey I really don't Want to go on I think This is a skip Every time for me I also

[00:14:15] I understand That Figment Is allegedly The mascot Of Epcot I just feel like That purple dinosaur Is pushed on us Really hard He's a dragon And I don't Okay Whatever Purple dragon Is pushed on us Really hard And I don't Understand it And this ride Is really silly And needs It's a no For me Literally Every time Okay I have Journey Into Imagination With Figment On my list Here to talk

[00:14:45] About I also Was like I don't know If this actually Makes the list Of seven worst Rides at Disney I'm not sure It does But Okay So here's why I had it As a talking point My kids love it It is a very Little kid ride Like the little kids Think it's great They have the Butterfly illusion And then there's That really cool Play place afterwards Like it's a great Place for little kids However It definitely Has not aged well It feels very 90s kid

[00:15:14] It doesn't quite Like hit the mark The way it could For kids today But on top of that Everyone who's A die hard Figment lover Says that the Original iteration Of that ride Was way better Than the current Iteration of it So that's why I have it on The list to talk About today But you don't Think it's a bottom Set You think that There are six Attractions that Are worse than This ride Or seven I think it's in The middle Honestly for me In the middle Of all rides Yeah Oh god No no

[00:15:44] In the middle Of the bottom In the middle Of the bottom Okay Alright So you do Put it on the list She doesn't think It's a bottom seven She thinks it rises Above at least Seven other I'm very curious To know what The other seven Rides are going To be that Beat figment For being worse We'll see We'll see What do you think I actually have It on my list too I feel really terrible About putting it On my list Because we do it All the time No And I do have Some nostalgic Oh you have to do it Because you have to Know who figment is You would not Figment would not exist

[00:16:14] Without this ride And I agree He is Well it did make me laugh You said he's kind of Pushed on us Which is true He is It's true We got like five hour waits It's like five hour waits For his popcorn bucket Two hour waits for It is wild Did y'all see the video Of the character Meet and greet When he fell over Yes Bless him He couldn't get I know And he's so sweet Like we went and saw him At our last little visit And had our entire family Of 16 up there With a photo with him And he was so sweet

[00:16:44] But yeah He's on the list I mean this ride Is definitely on the list I'm kind of dying laughing At you saying that He was sweet At your character Like what did he do Different than Mickey Mouse To make him so sweet It was the same things Yeah That's sweet I mean he could have Been ugly to us I don't know Okay This is on This is on my list But if Katie I'm comfortable Putting it in the Standby queue Because I want to Leave room to hear What Katie believes Are worse Just so we can get All the way there And not fill it up

[00:17:13] But it's gonna be In the lightning lane It's not even gonna be In the standby queue It's like in the Lightning lane Ready to jump in Our list Because I can't imagine That we're gonna Find seven worse I just think this You're gonna ride it Because if you've Never been to Disney World You're going to Ride Figment Because you're like Oh Figment That's the mascot Of Epcot And everybody Always wants that Popcorn bucket And he's so popular This ride must be Incredible And you're going To get on And you're gonna Be like What's happening This is Disney We're at Disney World

[00:17:43] Right now Yeah Yeah It's the ride That you get on And laugh at it Enjoy it ironically At least that's my family We tend to do that We tend to find Rides that We enjoy it Because it's a little Weird Okay Well you're a regular And you've ridden Everything So you can do that But if you're A first time family You're gonna get on And be mad That you wasted Any of your Precious park time Doing something That you laugh at Because it's weird Okay Katie Give us one That's worse Okay

[00:18:13] I'm gonna skip one Because I think That you will Probably both Talk about it But another one That's higher On my list Than Journey Into Imagination With Figment Is the Wildlife Express Train At Animal Kingdom Because I don't Feel like that Even qualifies As a ride It's good for A form of Transportation To get from You know The Africa section Of Animal Kingdom To the Affection station

[00:18:43] Like Rafiki's Planet Watch But as a ride No Okay I don't think This gets to go On the list And here's why I think exactly What you just said Is exactly right I don't really look At this as a ride I don't think Many people Look at this As a ride I think this Truly is A form of Transportation And they tried To make it More than that By giving you A little bit More of an Enjoyable experience But truly The purpose Of this train Is to get

[00:19:12] From point A To point B Not to have A ride experience In your day When I'm looking At my list I am looking At things that Intentionally Were put on On the park Map as a Ride experience And this to me Is a transportation Experience And I think That's different I have seen Families be like Let's go ride The train And they're not Getting off At Rafiki Planet Watch Well but that's When you have A family that Has a train Lover And is saying Hey do you Want to go ride The train Friend

[00:19:41] And that kid Probably loved The train But they're Using the train In my opinion As a ride When it's real Intention Is Like I don't Think anybody That's waiting In line To ride The train To planet Watch Is saying Let's go Have a great Ride experience If they're Riding it As a ride It's probably Because they Have a train Lover And then that Person's probably Not disappointed Because they Love train Stacy What do you Think I considered It when I Was going Through my List Because it Is a little Odd It is a Side facing

[00:20:11] You're on a Circle A track And you're Only allowed To see the Outside of the Circle Because We even said On the most Recent episode Because Disney Imagineering Probably kept Some things You're not Supposed to See behind You So they Keep your Vision Where it Needs to Be At air Conditioning Units And I Mean it's Really still Not a Very good View Yeah It's just It's very Boring There is There's Potential That they Could put Some things There to Give it a Little

[00:20:41] Entertainment Value As you're Transporting However I still Tend to Be That it's Not on The list For that Reason That it Is mostly For transportation I do not Think anyone Is getting On it For a Ride Experience And I Just think That in That case For the Purpose of What we're Trying to Do The things We're Saying to Avoid I would Not say Oh avoid That it's So boring Because you Might need It to Go do Your Animation Station Like I Yeah

[00:21:10] That's kind Of what I Think I'm like If you Want to Ride it And not Go to Rafiki's Planet Watch And you You're Not trying To get To the Animator Experience And you're Just riding It to Ride it It's probably Because you Have a Train lover I don't Think the Intention of This was Ever to Be a ride So I Think that There are Some worse There are Definitely Some worse Experiences Here Okay All right Stace Lay a new One on Us All right Let's Go Controversial Here Because I And I Have Mentioned This But I Am

[00:21:43] A classic It has Been there Since my Childhood I know That little Children Enjoy the Imagination Of driving Their own Car Well it's not Even imagination They are Driving their Own car However I never Let my Children Because To me First of All Incredibly Loud The smell Of diesel Or whatever It's not diesel I guess It's probably

[00:22:13] Unleaded fuel But it's The smell Is strong The time That it Takes As soon As you Walk From the Point of You Opened Up that Gate You know The little Gate Holding you Back from Entering The ride To when The ride Actually begins That period Of time Is longer Than the Actual Ride Itself It is Just Not worth Your time My humble Opinion I'm ready For the Daggers Go This is On my List Oh yes

[00:22:42] This is A skip Of all Skips Travesty No Do you Have a Mini golf Course with Go-karts Near your House Because the Go-kart Track is Probably better More exciting And more Exhilarating Than what's Going on At the Tomorrowland Speedway The line Cue Those stairs That you Have to Take down To the Cars Beating Blazing Sun Terrible Cue For all The reasons You said In addition To just Being Flat out Brutally Hot They Don't Really Go Fast It's Not Really A race

[00:23:12] Like I know It's A speedway And it's Supposed To be A race You Can't Really Race Anybody And if I'm Going to Be in A race Attraction I want To Race Like that Would be Fun When I'm In go Karts It is No Holds Barber That is Not What's Going On At the Speedway And tell Me Right Now What is Futuristic Or Tomorrowish About The Tomorrowland Speedway At this Point It's Just Taking Up A ton Of Space It is Not Futuristic It is Not Fast It is Not Exhilarating It is A Not Do It is

[00:23:42] A skip I am So happy To hear This I am So Sad Why are You sad Have You Never Raced Go Karts No Listen So let Me Paint The Picture For You First Of All My Kids Do Love The Tomorrowland Speedway And we Pretty much Hit it Every Magic Kingdom Day Like my Kids Begged To go On It The Other Reason I Like it As a Parent Of Three Kids Is It's Usually Me With One Kid And my Husband With The Other Two Kids And Someone's Unhappy Because They Didn't Get To Drive The

[00:24:12] Cool Thing About This Attraction Is If You Have Two Kids They'll Let You Basically Ride Twice And Swap Who The Driver Is So I Love That About This Ride But Yeah The Fumes It's Not Futuristic I Get It The Same Way That Stacey Said She Enjoys Figment For The Irony Of It That's The Experience That I Have With Tomorrowland Speedway I'm On An Adults Only Trip Last May With A Few Others If You're On An Adults Only Trip You Better Not Be On The

[00:24:41] Tomorrowland Speedway Listen This Is Great No It Is One My Favorite Memories Listen To This We Had Extended Evening Hours At Magic Kingdom And We Were Getting There Late So We Only Had An Hour Left And I'm With My Friend Emily And We Walk In She Goes What Do You Want To Do And Everyone's Kind of Like Congregating Over Towards Tomorrowland And I Was Like Listen Do You Know What Would Be The Silliest Thing Everybody's Congregating To

[00:25:19] Tick Tock While We're Driving Doing All This Silly Nonsense And I Said I'm Going To Shout At Everybody Walking To Tron And Be Like This Is The Greatest Day Of My Ride That Ironically As To Adults And Be Shouting At People It Was The Greatest Day Of My Life Okay Well A Couple Of Things If That's The Greatest Day Of Your Life We Have Other Things We Need To Discuss Also If You Have To Ride Ironically

[00:25:49] Then It All Right Any Day You Want Let's Go Okay We're Putting It On Because It's It's Outdated And It's Slow And It Smells Bad All Right I Think That's Me My Turn

[00:26:19] I Think This Is Going To Be Controversial Too I Feel Very Passionately About This One Though I'm Going To Say The Seas With Nemo And Like The Doom Buggies From Haunted Mansion In Disguise Number Two This Is Allegedly You Know I'm Not A Finding Nemo Fan It's Fine I'm Not Not A Nemo Fan But It's Definitely Not In My Top Five Favorite Pixar Movies But

[00:26:49] It Is A Lot Of People's Number One Favorite Pixar Movie And For A ride That Is That Popular And Slowly In Front Of A Video Screen For The Entire Ride That's What It Is No You're Not No No There's Not Video Screens Through The Whole Thing They Have Yes There Is There

[00:27:19] Are Some Fish There Are Some Fish And They Do Put Nemo And Stuff In There Is You're Right That Scene Exists And I It Should Be And I'll Even Continue The Argument There Is A Scene With The Jellyfish Yeah That Is Also Not A Screen However It's On My List Too

[00:27:48] Allie I And We Ride This A Lot We Ride It As A Mode Of Getting To The Aquarium And I'll Even Do A Lightning Lane Because I Will Grab The Lightning Lane Do It Really Quick And It Doesn't Take Long To Get Right Back Off Your List Because The Q For It Is The Craziest Long Zig Zag Zig Zag In One Small Space It's Like If You Had A Big Open Room And You Said Okay Let's Just Walk Back And For In This Room For A While It Is The

[00:28:18] Tiniest Space For A Zig Zag Trail So I Really Just If I Lightning Lane And Do A Straighter Path It's So Much Better But It Is So Much Of A Screen And It Does Have A Little Bit Of Motion Sickness Area When You Go Through The Australian EAC The EAC Right I was Missing The E The EAC And It's Kind Of A Cool Effect Sickness People

[00:28:48] Know This Has Potential And It's Because Of The Screens So I Have It On My List To We'll Do It As A Mode Of Transportation To Just Get To The Aquarium However As A Ride I

[00:29:18] Just Think You Know Of All Of The Rides That Are Similar To This Haunted Mansion Being One The Little Mermaid Being One I Think This Is Definitely The Worst The Queue That Stacy Was Talking About That Long Long Queue It's Hilarious To Me This Attraction This Ride Usually Has A 10 Minute Wait And The Queue Looks Like It's Ready To Gear Up For A Two Hour Wait So You're Walking Through An Empty It's It's Pretty Funny Honestly The Only Reason I Really Think It'll Go In The Standby Queue Is Because I Do Think Potentially We Could Find

[00:29:48] Five More That Are Worse That I Do Think It's Low On The List And The Only Other Reason Is Because It Usually Has Such A Short Line That Maybe It's Easy Not To Skip And This For Purposes Of Today's Episode Is About Easy To Skip Attractions So Katie For You I'll Put It In A Standby Queue But Just So You Know It's First In Line To Get Out Okay I Need To

[00:30:28] We Love That Ride We Love It We Love It We Love It I Think You're A Little Bit Crazy To Think It's One Of The Worst Ones If We're Going To Say That Wildlife Express Train Isn't Counted As Under The

[00:30:58] Boat That Nemo Touched It Doesn't Feel Claustrophobic To Me There Are Definitely Some Cues At Disney That I'm Like Oh I Am Much Too Near People In Like The Line Beside Me Right Yeah If This Line Was Full You Would Be It's Just Not Full No I Have Been In That Line Whenever It's Full And It's A Wide Line I'm Talking About Like If You Are In The Teacups Where They Have Switchbacks And You're Like I'm Bumping Into People Beside Me Or The Three

[00:31:27] Caballeros Is Another One Where You're Bumping Into People That Is So Tight Yeah That It Is Not Advertised As Just A Form Of Transportation Which Is Why We Need To Warn People It Is Being Presented As A Ride It's A Ride Yeah

[00:31:57] It Is No No This Is Presented As A Ride And I Want To Warn People Don't Do It As A Ride Now If You Want It As A Form Of Transportation To Get To The Aquarium Which Is What We Do Okay Becky I Love You I Really Love You And I Love It When You're On Our Episodes But We're Going To Go Another One That We Can Argue Because Becky Is

[00:32:47] Yeah Listen This Is Absolutely This Is On The List For Sure It Is You're Right Finish Your Argument There's Not Much More To Say And I'm Not Anti Boat Ride I Think Boat Rides Have Their Place And I Love Them And They Make A Nice Gentle Place To Relax Take A Break Off Your Feet And Have A Nice Scenery To Go Through And This Is Not It The Place Where They Have The Three Caballeros Is Cute We Need More Of That

[00:33:17] It Needs To Be More And We Are Under Refurbishment Right Now Currently As We're Recording The Ride Is Under Refurbishment But I The Epitome Of That And It's Just A Bummer You Know I Hate That That's True This Is Not A Ride I Would Ever Go Out Of My Way To Ride The Only Time I Get On This

[00:33:47] Ride Is When We Are Eating At San In We Are Waiting On Our Food And It's Taking A While Hey Kids You Want To Ride The Fiesta Boat Tour Yep And It's Remarkable Or Special In Any Way They're Just You Know There's Donald And His Buddies And They're Dressed Like The Cop Yeah Whatever I Don't This Is A Silly Ride It's

[00:34:16] Definitely Bottom Seven This Is Not Innovative This Is Not Imagineering At Its Finest This Offers Nothing Special Sorry This Is Definitely On The List I So Badly Want To Pick Up The Torch For Becky Since She's Not Here And Be Like But Wait But I Really Don't Have Anything Redeeming To Say About It Either I Do Think That There Are Better Opportunities For What That Ride Could Be I Feel Like You See Some Elements Of The Newer Coco

[00:34:46] Film In The Pyramid Itself And Going Into The Afterlife And Things Like That Would Be A Better Story I Think It's An Original Attraction Original Ride From Way Back In The Day In The 80s When Epcot Opened And It Was Very Much World Showcase Was Totally Set Up To Be Educational Right It

[00:35:23] Teaching About Mexico Through The Ride And I Think It Was Just Meant To Be Very Educational And So They Have At Least Improved It You Know I Think Epcot Is Realizing We Need To Be An Entertainment Venue Versus Just Straight Up Educational It's Made It's Changes But The Potential Is There I Mean And We've Seen It With Norway We've Seen It With The Frozen Like

[00:35:53] Much Better Use Of That Space For Current Times And I Feel Like This Is A Space That Really Needs A Nice Update Coco Would Be Fantastic I Was To Say This Might Be It Would Be Perfect I Was To Say This Might Be A Bad Take Because There Is Definitely A Crowd Of People That Doesn't Want To Disney Fi Everything And I Understand That But A Coco Attraction Coco So While Nemo Is Not In My Top Coco Absolutely Is Coco Is A Top Three Pixar Movie For

[00:36:23] Me I Love Everything About It I Would Love A Coco Attraction In There If They Could Re-theme this And Improve It And I Understand That's A Controversial Take Because Some People Just Don't Want To Sprinkle Disney Theming Into Everything I Get That And I Understand It But I Don't Necessarily Agree With It And I Would Love To See That Happen It Isn't Though And So It's On The List Unless Katie Has Some Strong Reason It Shouldn't Be Nope Sorry Becky We And To Be Fair

[00:36:53] Most Smarties May Spoiler Alert That Did Not Go Well For Her Okay We Have Already Taken Four Attractions Off My List I'm Going To Give Another One Actually Five We've Taken Five Off Of My List So I Only Have Two More To Offer Up I

[00:37:35] Walt Himself Had To Do With It That's The End Of The Conversation That's The End Of It Otherwise It Is Boring It Is Weird No Story Is Weird Yes It No Yes It

[00:38:06] Even Worse Even Worse But That's Not Okay And I Will Pick Up This Argument For How The Weirdness Is With The Weirdest Part Of It To Me Is With The Young Son Is Looking Through The Spectacle Glass Or Something It's Some Sort Of Like A View Master You Know An Old Fashioned View Master And He's Like Who Is This Lady Doing The Hoochie Coochie And Dad Is Like Put That Down Before Your Mom Finds Out About It And I'm Like Oh

[00:38:36] My Gosh This Is Not Great Disney This Is Not Great I Think It's On The List What About When But Then Doesn't He Say Don't Worry Patricia They're Friends That's Weird You Guys Okay Let Let Let Let Dial This Back Here A Little Bit So If You're Not Familiar With The Carousel Of Progress It Is Walt's

[00:39:06] Vision Of A Family Basically Progressing Through It And She's Getting Ready And Yes Is That Kind Of A Weird Thing To Say Today Like Oh Their Friends Don't Yeah Of Course That's A Weird Thing By Today's Standards But I Feel Like It Was Just A Line To Showcase What Women Would Have

[00:39:36] Been Wearing In That Time It's Really To Impress Upon You How Far We Have Made It As A Society From The Beginning That Was Walt's Vision Was Look How Far We've Come In Such Little Time But If That's The Vision Then We Need To Update It To How Far We've Continued To Come Yeah I Will Give You That Continual Carousel Of Progress And They Did Update It This Is Actually Where I Have A Super Specific Only Me Frustration This Is

[00:40:05] Only Me The Year I Choose To Dress As The Weeks Before I Show Up In My Outfit At The End Scene I Was I Had This Amazing Perfect Match Of A Dress Lacy Collar And Broach I Looked Exactly Like What Grandma Was Wearing In This End Scene And Then Weeks Before The Party Where I Will Be Attending They

[00:40:35] Redress Grandma Into This Khaki Colored Sweater And It's Supposed To Be Modernized And I Was Like So My Costume Is Gone Forever It Is No Longer A Part Of The Ride But And I Like The Ride I Mean As Far As What It Is I Respect It I Really Do It Does Go Through It Has A lot Of One Liners For Some Humorous Things Kind Of Poking Fun At The Different Stages Of Our Culture And I Think It's Pretty Cute But If We're

[00:41:05] Going To For You That Don't Know Carousel Progress Is My Favorite Disney Attraction Ever For The Historical Significance Of It For Walt's Touch On It And Walt's Vision Of It But Also For The Optimism And Always Looking Forward To

[00:41:42] Two Doors In My Heart It Will Never Be A Bottom Seven Attraction However I Understand

[00:42:12] How Other People May Feel Different Yeah The Reason Is Because Your Story Is Beautiful You've You've Told it On The Podcast Before And I Think The First Time You Told It On The Pod Was The First Time I I One One

[00:42:42] Belting Every Every Word Every Every Scene The Reason The Reason This Ride Is On The List Is Because The Only It Is Skippable For Entertainment It Is Skippable For Being A Quality Ride The Only Reason You Would Not Want To Skip It Is If You Are A Disney History Junkie And You Just Don't Want To Miss Something That's Rooted In Disney History Which I Get There's That Audience But For The Vast Majority I think It's Okay To Skip And It's Not Going To Fulfill You With A Bunch

[00:43:12] Of Enjoyment We're Not Talking About Shows But I We Have Three Rides On The Standby Queue And A Couple More On Our List To Try And Figure Out What Are Going To Fall To The Bottom Seven Rides In All Of Walt Disney World We're Going To Take A Break And Then Come Back To Figure Out What The Bottom Rides Are

[00:43:41] All Of Disney World All Right Four Tour In Epcot In Mexico Pavilion And Sadly For Katie And For Disney Nostalgia And History Lovers The Carousel Of Progress It's Just Too Outdated Too Weird We Do Have Rides In The Standby Queue They Are Journey Into

[00:44:11] The Imagination With Figment And The Seas Of Nemo And Friends Those Not Made It To The List But They Are Waiting On Standby In Case We Can Not Agree On Attractions That Is The Second Worst Attraction In Disney World If We're Calling Mission Space Orange The Number

[00:44:41] One Worst Attraction This Is Number Two And That Is Astro Orbiter In Magic Kingdom And Tomorrowland Right Now Astro Orbiter Is Undergoing A Major Renovation So If You're Walking Into Tomorrowland They Have Walls Up They Don't Have The Big Beautiful Space Like Thing That's Sort Of The Center Piece Of Tomorrowland And I Do Miss It For That Reason Tomorrowland Looks Really Empty Without It

[00:45:33] A Small Bad But If You're Like Going With Your Spouse For Date Night Maybe Skip Astro Orbiter I Don't Know It's Just Kind Of Weird Some People Might Really That Might Be

[00:46:03] That That Where Maybe It Gets Weird I Definitely Do Not Want To Climb Into Astro Orbiter With My Brother Josh He's One Of

[00:46:33] Cool And I Will Give Them The Nod That At Night It Is Absolutely Beautiful To See From Up There The Lighting Is Amazing In Tomorrowland And It's Pretty But It's A Very Small Dumbo Like Ride I Don't Know If The Circumference Of This Ride Is Smaller Than Dumbo But It Feels Very Small It Is A Very Tight Circle I

[00:47:03] Up It's Terrifying You're Just In The Wide Open Space That It Doesn't Feel Safe It Feels Like You Could Just Fall Right Out I Don't Know I Don't Like This At All I Think It's Terrible I

[00:47:33] The Non Height Required Rides At Magic Kingdom This Fell Very Low To The Bottom If Not The Very Bottom And It

[00:48:03] At Disney World And Let Tell You Why As A Rite Of Passage Your Kids Need To Learn To Love A Roller Coaster Then It's Fun But I Don't Think That There Is A Single Other Audience That Should Be Riding The Barnstormer If You Don't Have A Child That Is Not Quite Tall Enough For Slinky Dog But Big Enough For Barnstormer You Should Ride This As A Introduction To Roller Coasters Fun Little Mild Thrill For Them There Is Not Another Audience If Your Kids Are Big Enough For Mind Train You

[00:48:33] Not New Barnstormer It Is Short It Is Silly It Is Not Really The Like It And The Reason Why Is We We're A Family Of Five And My Oldest Daughter Who Is Eight Is My Shy Rider

[00:49:02] And There Is No Way For Our Family Of Five Where They Will Put My Eight Year Old With My Six Year Old They Won't Do It It Has To Be One Parent With Each Of Younger Kids And She Would Have To Be By Her So Even Though She Wants To Ride It We Don't Have Any Way For Her To Do It Without Being By Herself And She Won't Do It The Barnstormer Is Really Low On My List As Well Although I Have To Say Carla Our Podcast Co-host Carla Took My Daughter Tally

[00:49:32] On The Barnstormer For The First Time When Tally Was Two And She Got A Great Video But She Falls In That Category Where You Can Have A Cute Story It's Such A Small Exactly It's Too Isolating It's Too Silly It's Not Good Here's My Argument I Don't Want It On The List Because Disney Presents It Exactly As What It Is It Is Not Out There In The Middle Of

[00:50:01] Magic Kingdom Pretending To Be Anything That It's Not It Is In The Circus Area Focused On Preschool Age It Is In A Very Childlike Area It Knows What Its Job Is To Introduce Children To Roller Coasters And It Is Exactly What It's Supposed To Be Sure If You Are Confused And Think Oh This Is Going To To A Thrill Ride Then Maybe You Need To Look At The

[00:50:33] And I Think It's Perfect It's Perfect For What It Is And I Don't Think It Needs To Be On This List Because It's Not The Worst Ride It Is Not The Worst Ride I Don't Think That Disney Doing A Good Job Saying It's A Bad Ride Is A Reason To Keep It Off Of The List Of A Bad Ride

[00:51:06] It's Presented The Bad I Didn't Say Things For Babies Are Bad I Just Said It's Too Like Here's A Good Example Little Mermaid Ride Really Close To It Good For Babies Good For Bigger Kids Good For Everybody To Go On And Ride Now That My Kids Are Over The Age Of

[00:51:43] But Pretty Soon Because It's Such A Short Willow They're Going To Be Out Of Barnstormer Era And I Don't Think You'll Still Be Going To It Seven Dwarves Mine Train Does Have A Height Restriction It's A It's A Low Height Restriction But That Is A Family Friendly Coaster As Well So By The Time Tally Was Tall Enough To Ride The Barnstormer My Youngest It Was Maybe A Couple Months Later That She Was Big Enough To Ride The Seven Dwarves Mine Train Which I Feel Like Is Equally As Good Of A Coaster To

[00:52:13] Introduce Little Kids On I Just Do Feel Like The Barnstormer Is Too Is Is Is Sorry Stacey I Think It's On The List It Is To Standby Because I Would Like To Argue It Is Not As Bad As Some Of The Things In Our Standby List There Are Going To Be Things In The Standby List That Deserve This Spot More So Than This Barnstormer You

[00:52:54] Do I'm Sure You Do I'm Sure You Do This Is Ridiculous Here's The Take It Is The Ratatouille Ride And Here's The Take There Are 3D Rides That Are Being Switched Over To Non 3D Rides In Other Companies And In Europe They Actually Took Down The 3D For This Attraction At I

[00:53:25] So And They Removed The 3D Portion Of It Where You Could Ride It Without Having To Wear 3D Glasses It Did Not Have That Fuzzy Look To It And I Would Be So I'm So Pro That But They Actually Brought It Back And People Were Disappointed I Think That Because It Requires 3D Glasses And It Has The Motion It

[00:53:54] I'm Going To Do My Motion Sickness Patches I'm Going To Make It And I Still Cannot Make It It Is An Instant Can't Do Now I Know A lot Of People Think It's Cute And I Would Think It Was Cute If I Can Watch It But I Can't There's No Way I Can Enjoy This Ride It Is 100% Skip For Me But I I Know I'm Not The Major I Know I'm Not Even Going To Debate This Is One Of The Better Non Height Required Rides And All Of Walt Disney World We've Already Spent Too Much Time On It This Is So Far From The List I Can't Take It

[00:54:24] Yeah I'm Not A huge Ratatouille Fan But My Kids Love That Ride I Feel Like It's a great one. Shayla and Stacey. Okay, Katie, do you have another? I do have one, but it's probably another controversial one because it does have a very large fan following and the line for it is

[00:54:52] never below 50 minutes to an hour. And you probably all know what I'm about to say. I do. Peter Pan's flight. Oh, I don't. That is not what I was expecting. Oh, okay. Well, I'm saying Peter Pan's flight because I mean, my family will ride the Barnstormer before we'll go ride Peter Pan's flight. The draw for Peter Pan's flight for most people is that it's like a Disney World original

[00:55:19] attraction from opening day and that it has this sort of nostalgia factor to it. I do love Peter Pan as a film, but I don't love this attraction because it is too, it's too short. It's over too quickly for all the time that you spend in line for it. And I think that the queue for the line itself is better than the ride. Like there's really fun elements. I would go out of my way if that was a

[00:55:46] walkthrough attraction and I could walk through the Darling House. Sold. I'll be there every week. But the queue is better than the ride for all of its fun elements. And then the ride is just kind of like meh. Yeah, I've been very vocal about the fact that I don't think this is great. And I don't necessarily understand why it always has such a long wait. But I think it's far from worse. Correct. Very far. I feel like it needs to be released in the standby queue. No. No way. If we were making

[00:56:14] a list of the most question mark misunderstood rides or something like that, it could be there because I don't understand why it's so favorable. But it's definitely not a bottom seven attraction. No, it's really sweet and great. I love this ride. My only confusion about it is how is the line is so long. Like I don't understand how it gets so jammed up when it's, you know, it's just like the other rides. I don't understand. It's a fun ride, but I don't know what sets it. I can't understand what sets

[00:56:44] it so far apart from other similar rides that it... Exactly. That doesn't mean I think it's bad. Right. There you go. It's very sweet. I love to take children. I mean, I love for... I would tell an adult like, oh no, you definitely need to see it. It's very cute. So yeah, there's no way this needs to be on this list. All right. So here's what we have on our for sure list. Mission Space Orange, the Grand Fiesta Boat Tour, the Three Caballeros, Tomorrowland Speedway, the Carousel of Progress,

[00:57:10] and the Astro Orbiter. That is three attractions at Magic Kingdom, two attractions at Epcot. None from the other two parks, Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios. And we don't even have any from those parks on our standby queue list. We are looking to let two more attractions in off of standby queue. And those are Journey into the Imagination with Figment, The Seas with Nemo

[00:57:34] and Friends, or The Barnstormer. I think the clear two winners are Figment and Barnstormer. And by winners, what you mean is losers, right? Because to me, those are the clear two losers as well. Hold up. I actually am a little confused why nobody brought up alien swirling saucers. I can't believe none of us brought that up. And I had it on my list, but it was like one of my last

[00:58:01] mentions because I thought surely it was coming up. Do we want to argue that at all? I don't think we need to argue it. And here's why. It was low on my list or high on my list as well, whatever you want to look at it, because I don't think it's a great ride. But when I rode it, because there are different types of attractions, right? Like we have the Dumbo type spinners, ones that go around in a circle. And then we have the ones like Haunted Mansion where

[00:58:26] you sit and go through a story. We have the boats, the spinning rides, like the teacups. I think the alien swirling saucers is actually a great version of that type of attraction. The way it sort of slingshots and the way it goes through different spaces. It's not a great ride, but I think for the type of ride it is, it does it well. That is my argument for Barnstormer. That is my argument for Barnstormer. It is a different type of ride and it does well for what it is. Can't put Barnstormer

[00:58:56] on this list. No, but see my, no, the rebuttal to what you said, Stacey, is that what category does it fall in? It is a preschool ride. It is the most awesome, exciting preschool ride you could ever have. Too isolating. It's too isolating. You only ride it with a two. It's a preschool ride. It's too isolating. No, I just can't. I can't get behind that. I do want to say that Alien Swirling Saucers was also on my sort of like dishonorable mention list, if you want to call it

[00:59:24] that. I do think it's a great ride. It reminds me a lot of The Whip from Kennywood back home and I love The Whip. So I do like it, but I hate standing in line for it. I wish that the ride itself was longer, but I don't feel like it's a bottom seven attraction. I do think... I think it's a bottom 10. I think it's like a bottom 10. I do think that we will catch some flack from people if we don't mention a ride that I know

[00:59:51] all of us love, but there is some hate for it that exists. I know what you're going to say. You're going to say The People Mover. That's not what I was going to say. Oh, I love The People Mover. Don't even bring that up in this list. Don't even. I love it. Yeah. No, I'm not. I'm laughing so hard. No, the ride I was thinking of is It's a Small World because that ride gets a lot of hate. I don't hate it. I don't hate it, but there are people that hate it.

[01:00:17] No, there are people. I live with one and he, when we were having this discussion last night and I told him what we were recording this morning, he brought that up and we literally argued. Like it almost, it was almost a fight. And he said it before, like this was not new. So he is one of those and it makes me so angry. I'm like, no, it's a great ride. You get out of here. That's a great ride. Don't even get, yeah. Don't even put that in your list.

[01:00:46] All right. What is the one thing we know for sure? All right. Journey into the Imagination with Figment. We know for sure. It's going on the list. Don't even try to fight that again. Yeah, it's definitely on the list. So that gives us six. That means we have one more space. And I think you would find more of an audience repeating The Seas with Nemo and Friends than you would The Barnstormer. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think if we're looking at bottom rides, more skippable. And Stacey, if it makes you feel better,

[01:01:15] we can make it number seven. I just think Nemo is worse. I just think Nemo is worse. Oh, no way Nemo is worse. Not by a mile. Everybody can ride Nemo. At least we have this episode as my stance. People will know how I feel. That's right. That's right, Stacey. Nobody will ever mistake the fact that you love The Barnstormer. And next time we all go together, I will support you from afar while you ride it.

[01:01:44] And I will enjoy watching this. If we come out with podcast merch, your thing gets to be Stacey loves The Barnstormer. You push it too far. No, we all get one attraction on our shirt. Becky gets the Grand Fiesta Boat Tour. Katie gets the Carousel of Progress. You get The Barnstormer. I guess I would have to take Small World because I've been very vocal about how I like it and it's a hated ride. You're just fixing this so that you get the cute stuff. You know that's cute.

[01:02:14] I don't know what Carla, I don't know what Carla, what rides she likes that most people hate. She doesn't like a whole lot. Carla just doesn't like stuff. Yeah. Maybe like the Navi River Journey, didn't she? Didn't she on record? You know, and I really thought that was going to be mentioned on this list as well. I'm on the record saying I don't think that one is great, even recently in our Over Under episode. But I don't think it's a bottom seven. I agree. So here it is. The official bottom seven. We're not saying there aren't other worthy, skippable attractions.

[01:02:43] But for the reasons we said today, maybe it's a terrible queue. Maybe it's terrible motion sickness. Maybe it's bad imagineering. Maybe it's too isolating of an experience. Whatever it is, outdated. We talked about it. And for those reasons, one or all of them, the following rides are the bottom seven worst rides in all of Walt Disney World. They are Mission Space Orange, the Grand Fiesta Boat Tour, the Three Caballeros, the Tomorrowland Speedway.

[01:03:11] By the way, Mission Space Orange, Epcot, Grand Fiesta, Epcot, Tomorrowland Speedway, Magic Kingdom. Carousel of Progress in Magic Kingdom. Astro Orbiter in Magic Kingdom. Journey into the Imagination with Figment in Epcot. And the Barnstormer, sorry Stace, in Magic Kingdom. I think we did a good job. I stand by all of these selections. I don't think anyone's going to be missing anything if they don't ride these seven attractions.

[01:03:40] I stand by six, but I'll go with you. What? Because you want Tomorrowland Speedway on this? Carousel of Progress! Oh, right. It does. I mean, should we even bring up, there's another that I can't believe we haven't mentioned, but I don't want on the list. What? I really am so proud of us for not bringing Living with the Land into the story. No, that ride is awesome. That ride is fantastic. I agree. I just feel like people think they can skip it. When I was talking to Zan last night about the ride,

[01:04:10] she goes, you all better not bring up Living with the Land. And I was, actually, she said, I agree. She actually said, you all better not bring up the Garden Ride. So good. We have... And I said we won't. I know, I'm proud of us. I was like, we won't. That's great. Hope that's a message for our listeners as well. That's going to do it for us on another episode of the Moms Behind the Magic podcast. Make sure you're joining us in our social media feeds on Facebook, Moms Behind the Magic podcast. Get all of your questions answered so you feel even more like a pro.

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