37. Top 7 Reasons People Don't Go To Disney - The Sneezy Episode

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[00:00:53] sneezy at the idea of going to Disney World. What are the reasons that are keeping you away? Or what are the things people in your life are telling you to keep you away? We know there is not a good excuse not to be planning your next trip to Disney World and we're going to break down the top seven reasons we think you think you shouldn't be going and tell you, frankly, why you're wrong. Hey there, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Moms Behind the Magic Podcast. I am your host, Allie. I'm here today

[00:01:19] with Katie and Stacy and we're so excited to cover topic number two in our seven-part dwarf series. It's so fun and we're hitting a weird one today. Is this a weird one? This dwarf? I feel like they're all so obvious and people's favorites. This dwarf is often not people's favorites, but this topic for purposes of this show when we hit Sneeziest is going to be fantastic, I think.

[00:01:45] Yeah, I'm sure people are sitting on the edge of their seat waiting to see what does it mean to be the Sneeziest? Yeah, I this is I would not call him anybody's favorite dwarf, but he's going to be great today. And you know what anybody out there that is wanting to plan a trip to Disney, I'm going to tell you right now if you have a naysayer in your family or in your group, today's episode is really going to help this. This might be the one that pushes you over the edge and gets you to Disney World. But before we dive in, how's everybody doing? What's going on? I think by the time this

[00:02:12] episode, everybody's hearing this summer's like over, which is making me feel really sad. But I don't know. Katie might have different emotions about that than me. Yeah. As of yesterday, when we're recording this, my kids have two weeks of summer left and we've done the summer family vacation and I am just so ready to return to routine. And this you guys, this is going to be the first time that all three of my children are in school the whole day. So I feel like I've just

[00:02:42] unlocked a whole new level of freedom. Yeah, I feel like we've been talking about that for you for a really long time since you've known me. Yeah, it's gonna be I can't believe we're here. I honestly somewhere in my head thought we have another year until you're there because I just feel like we've always been talking about it and it's going to change your life. However, I feel really bad for Katie because anybody that doesn't know this all day, like quote all day for her. The kids are out of

[00:03:07] school by one o'clock. That is horrible. That's horrible. That's true. That is not all day. Yeah, our school starts really early. My kids have to wake up by 530 a.m. so that they can catch a bus by 630 and be at school by like 650. It gave me the chills. I made a joke when we were talking about this the other day and I was like, I cannot imagine my kids being productive at that time. I think a lot of people have different views on this on what time school should start and I've seen a lot of people

[00:03:35] say like high school should be the one that starts later because little kids are more productive in the morning. I think high schoolers want to get out early, don't they? To go do their thing, take a break before their evening thing. I mean, don't you agree? When I was in high school, I did not want to be at school till three or four o'clock. Whenever I was in high school, we got out at 230 and the little kids got out at 330 and it made sense because then as your family ages, then the oldest sibling is home first to be able to be there for the littler siblings.

[00:04:05] And that's not the way that our neighborhood works. It's the other way around. And I'm like, well, that wasn't helpful for anybody. Interesting. Yeah. This time of year for us, we have always homeschooled. Of course, now I'm empty nesting. So I have no idea what day of the week it is, what time of the day it is. I just live in this huge blur all the time. But back in my day,

[00:04:27] when I was a parent of children in school, we would not be getting close to starting yet. But it was mostly because the kids were always behind in school. And so their school lasted a long time. And that just was like, nope, summer's not starting till you finish. And then we also have a big family beach trip. I think I've mentioned the big old beach trip before. And it comes up in August. And

[00:04:54] we have always gone the very first week that rates drop. And the reason rates drop is because school starts back. And that is when we would hit the beach. And then the day we would get back from the beach would be our first day of school. So we are coming up on our beach trip. So that's kind of a mark in my calendar to let me know, oh, this is the time of year it is. Yeah, that's so wild. Stacy. Yeah. But I do have we the sad thing is I do have baby Jack,

[00:05:21] the youngest, he will be missing our beach trip, unfortunately, because of his schooling. That's the difference with college. Sometimes they can get down there. But we've often had when kids have been in college, getting everybody there. So he's gonna miss it this year. That's a bummer. My kids were really fun ages this summer. We've had so much fun. They've just been easier. They're sleeping late. They're staying up late. Honestly, some nights I can go to them and just say, I'm going to bed. And then they fall asleep at some point. I don't even know what time. And

[00:05:48] that's just a new era for us. It's fun. It's great. You know, and everybody's kind of doing their own thing. And it's a new level of freedom that we've had this summer. It's been so much fun. So I'm feeling sad that that's ending, you know, but I also look forward to the routine like Katie said. And we do have a big first day back to school starts as breakfast at the bus stop. I've talked about it before we do it for the last day as well. Starts as breakfast at the bus stop, but the mimosas are flowing and it turns into mom celebration. And it is very fun. And so I look

[00:06:18] forward to that. We won't be recording a podcast that day. Or we could and the content would be wild. But speaking, Stacey, I'm going to start a little because you mentioned your beach trip. I'm going to start a saga that I'm probably going to have to talk about a lot in the upcoming episodes. When spring break hits, my family has to travel because we just our lives and our businesses and the things that we're doing leading up. We're exhausted. We have like no days off zero days off from winter

[00:06:47] break ending to spring break. Right. And we're just dragging by then. So we have to go somewhere. And for the last couple of years, it's been a Disney cruise. But there are reasons why that may not be our best option this coming spring break. There is one on the table that I'm thinking about, but I haven't booked it yet. And honestly, I'm considering so many different types of trips. And I have to pick something because like you said, like rate, you were talking about rates. And then immediately my brain started thinking like, these are going to change. These are going

[00:07:12] to go up. I have to pick something. And so I'm looking at like, looking at a Disney cruise. There's one on our list. I'm looking at all inclusives. I might cheat on Disney and do a different cruise line. That's high up there. Oh, which one are you considering? So I might do a Royal ship. Yeah. I've done them, obviously, but my kids have not. And they're just a little older. And I think they might like it. But I'm very worried that I'm going to get on and be like, no, where's no, I just feel like I'm gonna get on and be like, this is not Disney. And I'm very, very worried

[00:07:41] about that. So I have to make a choice here soon, though. Yeah, Royal is great. You know that it'll be I know. It'll be different. But well, that's exciting. I thought you were gonna say you were gonna head to one of our beaches here in Alabama or something. Well, it's on the list too, but I'm all stores or something. So I was there's like something called Alley Beach down there. Have you heard of that? Oh, it's just my way. But it's in the panhandle. And then I think it's like kind of toward as you get. So anyway, there there's a bunch

[00:08:06] of little beaches and I was on the list. But I feel like in March, the Gulf is not quite ready for, you know, like, I don't know if it's warm enough and the Gulf is where I'm like a little worried that it's not quite what I want for that time of year. Okay, it can't it has been cool down there. But it's it's really so beautiful. I don't know some some years it is some years. I got inside people listening. Eminem's listening right now. If you're like, Oh, why are you so stressed about this? This is so far away. It is not far away.

[00:08:33] Spring break trips should be getting on. They should be getting on the books. And so I'm very I'm stressed about this. I have to make a decision. So I might drag everybody along on my journey here as I decide what we're gonna do. Actually, this is a perfect segue into today's conversation. Because every reason I'm thinking about why my choices for spring break are the wrong choice is exactly what we're talking about today. We're going to cover the seven reasons why you the listener you Eminem's are not going to Disney World, or why the naysayers in your life are

[00:09:01] convincing you that you shouldn't be going to Disney World. And then of course, we're going to debunk those things and explain to you why it's just simply not true. And it's an avoidable problem for you. But yeah, that's what I'm doing with my options. And I got to get I got to figure it out. I'm going to take you all along with me before we break it down. Moms Behind the Magic is brought to you by BabyQuip. If you've ever traveled with kids, you know, the hardest part is not always the flight. It's being away from all your things that make your little ones feel at home comfortable and ready to relax right along with you. Every time we travel, there's always that first night where

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[00:11:21] lists of sevens to match their personalities and really help you dig into your planning, the things you need to know before, after, and during your vacations to make sure that your Disney trip is perfect. And today, Stacy, Katie, and I are tackling Sneezy. And we are talking about the seven reasons you're not going to Disney World. When it comes to Sneezy, the things you're avoiding, you're allergic to, the things you're putting off because it just can't work, right? And these are

[00:11:47] things we really hear. We hear these reasons all of the time, but the reality is they're not actually we have a tissue scale today. Seven reasons that we hear all the time that you are not taking that trip, or maybe that special person in your life is telling you, you can't take the trip or whomever you're relying on is saying, we can't do it because of this reason. We're going to break those down. We're going to give it a believability score. How believable is this to somebody that doesn't know

[00:12:14] the truth? We're going to talk about how we can debunk that and what the truths are behind it. And at the end of our conversation for each of these, we're going to give it a truth scale. So I think this is really good. And I think it's going to shine some light on some of the fears people have and the reasons why they're holding back and how they can tackle those fears so that they can actually plan a trip. Really excited to have this conversation because I was one of those people that thought that I could never go to Disney World. I thought that it, you know, cost too much, all these things that we're going to talk about in the episode today.

[00:12:44] I really believed that. And at one point in my life, I was like, Matthew, I would love if we could get our girls to Disney at least in their lifetime. And then we went on the trip and now we go every week. So I'm so happy to be talking about this today. Yeah, it's going to be good because too many people skip this trip for too many of these reasons and it's just not necessary. So let's jump in. The very first and the most prominent one that I think is most relatable to everybody is,

[00:13:14] I'm not going to Disney World because it's only for people with a huge vacation budget. It's too expensive. Can't afford it. We hear this all the time. Yes. All the time. There is this longstanding myth that so many people believe that a Disney trip costs $10,000. How many times do you hear that number specifically? The people come to you and they're like, every Disney trip costs $10,000. You know, if my Disney trip costs $10,000, I'd be in a lot of trouble.

[00:13:41] Yeah. Yeah. I'm serious. $10,000 is often the number I hear. You're exactly right. So I'm going to go ahead and say that the believability scale, right? Out of 10, 1 to 10, how believable is this? How many tissues do you need, Stacey, to believe this one? Well, I think when people are talking about money, they just grab a whole box of Kleenex. They think they're going to be sniffling and sneezing and so worried, you know, this number that I'm going to tell them. And I've had the answer be

[00:14:08] so much less than they're expecting. So many times that people go, Oh, really? I mean, they, they're just shocked because people come with a box of Kleenex. I know we're saying we're having a 10 tissue scale, but you know, I think it's, you know, it's gotta be 10. It's gotta be the max. People are so worried and kind of with this sneezy idea, it's like, it's the, the idea they're allergic. You even see people breaking out in hives about talking about money, you know,

[00:14:35] this is, um, the biggest, scariest thing. I'm glad we're going straight for it right from the start because, and I want to come from a very, uh, respectful place too, that I know, you know, it's 2026. These are not times where we just have buckets of money sitting around for everybody to just spend on, you know, a quote unquote frivolous vacation, which some people believe a vacation can be a frivolous expenditure, which that's number one, I don't think is the case at all.

[00:15:05] I feel like that to me is probably what makes me passionate about this is that I just think it's so important to have vacation. First of all, whether it be at Disney or wherever, I just feel like family vacation time is so, so valuable in a, in a home. So that being number one, and then the idea that Disney world is such a dream location for so many people, I think we should shoot for our dreams, you know, have it as a dream out there and go for it. And, you know, I'm,

[00:15:34] I'm very respectful that it might be work. We have a great budget episode where we really talk about that. There may be some long-term planning and sometimes longer term for some people than others. But the fact is the price point of Disney may not be what people think it is. And I'm glad we're tackling that idea today. Well, the truth is that not only is it not the price point people may think it is, but it's also true that it can be your price point. It really can, you know, and I say

[00:16:04] it like that because it's, it's open-ended, you know, it is a Disney trip is flexible in the sense that you can make it cost $10,000 or more. You can, but you can also be much more frugal and you can make it cost $3,000. And the reason that this is not a reason that people should not be booking a Disney trip or going is because of the systems that Disney has put in place to make this not true. Number one, the low deposit. There is a very minimal deposit due. It doesn't matter if your

[00:16:32] package costs $3,000 or $20,000. The deposit is the same and it is low and it is fully refundable. And the final payment is not due until 30 days before you check in. So you have all of this flexibility. If you book your trip for a very low, very refundable deposit, 18 to 20 or more months before you intend on taking it, you can make little payments. I have a family right now. I'm making $100 a week payments and we've been doing that almost a year at this point and they're not going

[00:17:01] until next June. And by the time their trip gets here, it's going to be paid off and they were going to be doing it. They budgeted it in a way where they're not missing that money weekly. And they found the number that was comfortable for them. They found the number that was going to make it paid off in a comfortable timeline. And that's how we're making their dream come true. And so you can't look at the big scary number. You have to look at the requirement up front and the baby steps you can take to get to the big scary number. And it's affordable.

[00:17:29] Allie about it being a really low deposit. I'm talking like less money than you're going to spend at Walmart or Aldi getting groceries. Like it's very, very doable. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my gas bill is almost my, my to fill up my car is, is almost more than this at this point. I think Disney also knows that Disney's prices are kind of astronomical. They are a couple of pro tips. Number one, you think staying off site is going to save you money. The problem is

[00:17:56] that you lose some of Disney's flexibility when Disney has so many different resort tiers. If you need to be very budget conscious, there are value resorts that come with a massive amount of Disney perks. You still get early entry. You still get complimentary transportation. You still get payment plan flexibility. You still get Disney immersion. You still get pool games. You still get, get, get, get, get, and you get it at a lower cost than those $10,000 resorts. Right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.

[00:18:23] Additionally, if you try to stay off site, one of the hardest prices at Disney World, one of the most expensive things are your ticket. And when you stay off site, you have to pay for those in full upfront and they're non-refundable. When you pay for a package, you're paying those off little by little over time. And so it's just another reason why taking advantage of being on site at Disney and taking advantage of the ways they're helping every family get there.

[00:18:48] They also run annual promotions, seasonal promotions. Almost every season is going to have a promo that you can tap into and you can capitalize on savings. So, and you, Hey, you did not even mention that you can include that dining plan, which sometimes is a promotional. And then if you're making payments along the way, you could be paying for your food as well. So that by the time you get there, your food is also paid for. And I, cause I know that's a big worry.

[00:19:16] So, you know, yes, the, the big scary number might be a, you know, have you carrying around your box Kleenex, but when you break it down, you can really make it into bite-sized pieces that one tissue at a time, one tissue at a time. I'm telling you, if you have somebody in your group that is just like, it is too expensive. We cannot do it. Look at that number. Look at how much that

[00:19:39] package costs. My pro tip, I would encourage you to put a deposit down, put a low refundable deposit down that makes your dream a, a step towards a reality. Yes. Make it real, make it tangible for a moment and stop thinking about it in the hypothetical. And then breaking it down is going to be way more simple. And you're not going to be so scared of that big number. And you're not going to think it's just too expensive to pull off. I love that you said this because putting

[00:20:06] down that deposit, it, it helps you reframe even your own goal setting of how you're going to get there. Right. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So 10 out of 10 on believability. I think most people think Disney is just too expensive. The truth scale, this is probably in all actuality, maybe like a five out of 10, five tissues, right? Because it is expensive. It is a big undertaking. It is an investment into

[00:20:31] your family's memories. It does cost, but the best things cost some type of sacrifice. And you know, it's, this is going to be a sacrifice of some money, which sometimes means some time, you know, with the amount of work you're having to put in to build up for it. But the reward, I like to use the word dream, dream big, baby. I feel like five even might be a little bit too high because we talked a little bit about promotions and M&Ms. We can never promise that a promotion exists, but there

[00:21:00] is a promotion right now that Disney plus subscribers can go. You can stay on property for as low as $99 a night. It's crazy. It's crazy. I mean, I can't even stay at the hotel, but my dance studio for that. You know what I mean? And it's, it's crazy. The opportunity exists. You're right. It's wild. And it comes with so many perks. And I'm going to just say it again with the planning, with the

[00:21:25] strategies you can apply, this can be affordable quite literally almost for anyone. And I'm just going to say it again. I think investing in your family's memories is what should be taking front seat here. And I'm with you, Katie. I mean, I could, I even think the truthfulness could be lower for four out of 10, maybe just because it does take a lot of strategy for some families. And you know, as long as you're willing to do that, it's possible. Okay. I like it. Put down the deposit, you know,

[00:21:51] put the deposit down and see what happens. Okay. Number two, I'm not going to Disney because my kids are to remember this vacation. This, this has a high believability score. I hear this all the time. My kids are too little to go. Yeah. That doesn't even matter. What's too little. I mean, you could take, you could give birth and as long as you can walk, they can go.

[00:22:19] And even then, I mean, you don't have to walk. You get a scooter. Katie basically had her baby there that quickly. Yeah. Yeah. I did. Tally went whenever we were four months or whenever she was four months. So it was, she was really little. We honestly, that was probably our easiest trip because whenever they're too young to voice an opinion, it's a lot easier to figure out what we're doing. Absolutely. I think because Disney is such a, you want to see the magic through your

[00:22:47] kiddo's eyes and you're worried that you may miss that element. I think this believability is going to be high on our little tissue scale here, probably like a nine out of 10 or, or an eight out of 10. I don't know that it's a full 10, 10 out of 10. I don't know. There are some people who it is a 10 out of 10. I feel like not everybody, but goodness, I will run across a 10 out of 10 from sometimes for sure. Let's give this a nine. Let's give this a nine. Cause I think, you know, people are taking their little ones. You know what I mean? And I don't think it's quite as prominent as I can't

[00:23:16] afford it. You know, that is just, I can't afford it. And that's just it. Close the book. With kids, I think it's more of a question. Are my kids too young? You know, do I want to go? And so because there's a little bit of a question mark in that one, I think it deserves the nine. Do you feel like there's a magic age that is perfect to take your kid to Disney world? I think every age I've taken my kids from, this is like five or six months, I think the twins all the way to now, you know, my oldest is 11. So every age from five months to 11, I've taken my kids and I can legitimately give you a reason why

[00:23:46] every one of those trips was the most magical of all. So no, I don't think there's a most magical. What about you, Stace? Oh, the youngest child I've taken was, I think she was nine months. And, uh, I mean, and it, it was work. We took grandparents to help us out. And I know we have an episode about that as well, you know, about taking babies and toddlers and, you know, it's, I'm not saying that it's just, oh, sure,

[00:24:10] easy to go, but it's not a reason to not go if you're ready to go. If your family is ready to go, don't let the fact that you have a young child, a baby, it should not be a deterrent. Um, you know, we kind of, that that's the little theme of this is like being afraid to go because of you feel allergic to it. Like the idea of it makes you seize up a little, you know? Yeah, exactly. I feel like

[00:24:35] that's a, I feel like that's really what's behind because once your mom, oh my goodness, didn't the idea of going to Disney, like I know Katie, you did not go to Disney world without, well, you did. No, that's not true. You did go to Disney world once without having children. I know I grew up like, I can't wait for the day I have my own children. And, you know, and so as soon as I had babies, like literally they are probably not even a whole day old yet. I'm like, I can't wait to take you to

[00:25:01] Disney world. You know, like that was so early in my parenting and I mean, pregnant, I was like, I can't wait to take this baby to Disney world. Um, and so I think that that dream is there for a lot of people. And then either the price jumps in and starts scaring people or it's hard, you know, like if you're a new mom, sometimes you just question everything. You question all of your days. Like, can I get through this day period? I'll tell you what, I'm going to tell you three

[00:25:27] things. Number one, we say this all the time. This is the number one reason we say this. We say their childhood is your mom. We say that all the time. It's, it's the slogan. It's the hill I die on. Yep. I like you, Stacy was from the moment I knew that there were going to be children in the picture. I was envisioning these trips that we are now taking. In fact, we wrote our kids letters to give them when they're 18, like when they were born. And I can't

[00:25:53] exactly remember what was in, you know, but I know that there was at least a piece where I said, I dream about taking you on these Disney vacations. And I wonder if we did them. I know I said that, you know, and it's like, I look back or I'm looking at it now and not only are we doing it, but it is such a part, a piece of the fabric of our family, just like it was mine growing up. And those early trips are my memories. Like my little baby toddling towards the castle. She

[00:26:20] didn't remember that. Like I had to hold her hand to keep her up, but my gosh, was I happy and I wasn't paying for her. Number two, you know, I, and this is a really sentimental piece. And I think only people that are in this specific position can imagine this piece, but that is certainly some of our listeners. If you grew up and your parents took you and that was a piece of you, it was always a part of me that I wanted to take my parents. It was like, I grew up them taking me. I also wanted

[00:26:48] to take them. And I remember telling my wife early on, my parents never stayed at Animal Kingdom Lodge and I know that they would just love it. And it's my dream that we can gift them a trip in a Savannah view, all of us. And, and we did that trip. We did that trip early while my parents were as mobile as they could be. And, and in their prime, you know, because as, as my kids get older, my parents also get older and that trip becomes less possible. Right. And so we did it,

[00:27:13] we did that specific trip. And I don't think one of my kids remembers it, but me and my wife and my parents, we all do. And so for those two reasons, your kids are never too young because it can also be about you. And I have a good friend that just booked a last minute trip. We, we did it all. We booked it all. She left four days later. She's already back and she has two kiddos under three. They did like four nights. They stayed at art of animation. They took advantage of the after 2 PM ticket deal that happens to be going on right now. That is not an always thing,

[00:27:42] but they have little kids. And she was like, we don't need all day in the park. My kids want to, I want my kids to sleep in. We'll have a relaxing morning. And then after 2 PM, we'll go to the park. So here she is taking advantage of promotions, saving by not paying for her two kiddos that are under three and taking a trip to Disney world that she is going to remember. So for all of these reasons, your kids are never too young. Yeah. In our happiest episode,

[00:28:09] I cried like a baby about this because I'm kind of getting to a phase in my own motherhood where my, my littles aren't really, you know, the babies and toddlers anymore. We're in a new chapter of motherhood in our, in our family. And I'm even looking back now with my child, my youngest child is five and I'm looking back and I'm saying, we'll never have that one magic moment again.

[00:28:37] Like take your kids, take your little ones to Disney. You will never regret it. You never get to the end of your life and you're like, dang, I wish we didn't spend the money on that Disney trip. Yeah. Right. It's so true. It's so, so true. And here's a hot take for you, for the little, for the people that are scared of taking their little kids. My hot take, momming is easier at Disney.

[00:29:01] I agree. Because, because your kiddos can get in a stroller. Like I can remember in those dog days, um, two, you know, I had two babies at a time, my twins and a toddler. And those were some long days, sweet days, days I love and treasure and cherish. But I mean, there were some where I remember looking at the clock at four o'clock and being like, Oh my gosh, bedtime is, you know,

[00:29:27] even start bedtime for another three hours. And, and, and, and that was daily and counting down to when is, you know, this long day going to end. I get it. Days are long, years are short. I understand. Again, we just say I cherish the memories. Okay. But those were long days. And I remember that. And at Disney world, when my kiddos are just in strollers wheeling around and I am having fun and

[00:29:52] grabbing a Mickey bar and we're riding rides and they're taking naps whenever they would like, and doesn't really matter. Life was easy. It was so easy at Disney. Yes. Yes. Yeah. When we're at home, like 7 PM is, is the witching hour where you're like, my soul has left my body. How much longer is it until bedtime? But whenever you're at Disney with the kids, you're like, Oh, we can keep

[00:30:18] going. Yeah. Our work's at nine o'clock. Let's go. Witching hour is fixed by a Mickey bar and bedtime is 11 o'clock. It's fantastic. So what's the, what's the truth here that kids are too young? It's gotta be low. And that is just an absurd notion. It's not true. It's all zero. It's, it's non-existent. It's one out of 10. I mean, because the only, it's a one. Yeah. I think there, there could be some, some situations, some circumstances where it's like, you know what,

[00:30:45] let's just wait six months. I mean, even, you know, it, but you're choosing that's, that becomes a choice. Like when it comes to planning, it's zero. You can start planning that trip within the first year for sure. And so, I mean, it's, I think a zero for planning for choosing when you actually go, you know, there's maybe sometimes you would choose a certain time over another based on their ages and based on, you know, how you're parenting at that time and

[00:31:13] bedtimes and you know, all that kind of stuff, but it's a one. Yeah. It's a one. And the only reason I would say is because if you're still allergic and sneezy at the thought of the cost, and there's that mentality that you're only going to do this Disney trip once and every family does that Disney trip and you want the child to remember the memory and that's the thing like, all right, there's your one, but something tells me it doesn't need to be your only trip and you're going to fall in love with the magic. So majority it's not one and done. And it's,

[00:31:41] you know, take your kids when they're young. Do like my friend did. Take advantage of the special opportunities and don't pay for your kids. Make it about you and your spouse. Yeah. If you can be a spontaneous traveler, you really can hit up on some deals sometimes. Heck yeah. Absolutely. I know that's not in everybody's life, but man, when you can. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. Number three, Disney world crowds and long lines make the trip miserable. It's too crowded. Can't go to Disney. I'm allergic to crowds. How many tissues do you need?

[00:32:11] Yeah. Some people that is a very real issue and a very, just an allergy that they're like, nope, you know, it's like a, it's like allergy season. Like I'm not going to go, I'm allergic to crowds. They're going to make me sick, you know? Yeah. And I get that. I mean, I certainly, I certainly prefer less crowds over more. I understand that. So, so expectation, there's probably a pretty, a pretty seven, eight, nine ish tissue. I mean, I think people really are concerned about that and worried.

[00:32:42] But the reality is strategically, you can handle that like a pro. Like, I mean, I feel like we've got some, I don't know, what's the popular allergy medicine right now? I feel like our strategies and, and, and good planning can be like a Zyrtec or something. I don't know what's out there. Sure. That's exactly right. I completely agree. I completely agree. Um, people think that the crowds, like my own wife who loves Disney, she really does at this point. I, I have completely

[00:33:10] brainwashed her that this is a part of her spirit as well. But even she is guilty of saying, I don't, I can't stand crowds and lines. That's not fun to me. Well, and I, I've been at times, there have been a few times that I was like, whew, this crowd is a little much for me, you know? And particularly because I go, you know, I go enough that I've gone, I've gotten to experience both. I think if you haven't experienced both, you don't know,

[00:33:37] you don't know the difference, especially first time crowd. Like you're like, oh, it's just the way it is. I think a believability score here on it's too crowded is like an eight out of 10. Yeah. I, I would agree with that. Because obviously everybody thinks about the parks, lines and attractions and weights and, and people. And there are stories out there of wall to wall. There are photos out there of wall to wall people. I get it. Um, but real true people that are digging into planning will understand

[00:34:03] that Disney world is not just theme parks and that the crowds are not going to impact and affect every single part of your trip. Let me, let me say it this way because, because crowds are kind of the hill I die on. Like we planned our first trip intentionally around the lowest crowd time of the year. There are still times of the year that it's not as busy as other times. Is Disney always busy? I mean, yeah, to some extent, but how busy do you want it basically? And there are some times of the

[00:34:32] year that it is wall to wall or shoulder to shoulder crowds. It's not terribly often in my opinion, as a local who goes every single week. There are very few times of the year that I'm like, Hey man, I'm not going to Disney this week because it's going to be too busy. And let me frame it to you this way. A friend of ours posted a picture recently. And she was like, I'm at the wall in

[00:34:55] concert in Michigan. And she was in a stadium of a hundred thousand people. As soon as she posted that, I had like secondhand claustrophobia. I was like, that is not for me. I, I don't experience that at Disney world. Well, and I thought you were going to go towards calling out some of the pictures. Allie mentioned that, you know, you've seen pictures of wall to wall people at Disney. And I'm going to

[00:35:21] tell you, it's not that they're fake. It's that they're picking a moment, like maybe right after a fireworks or right after a parade or something, right at main street, right at, right at road. And it's main street, which is narrow and it's just entering the park and it's where it is this huge rush. But once you get into the park, you spread out and, and you all go to your different things

[00:35:47] and people are, you know, in different lines and it's not what the clickbait will lead you to always believe. Right. So tell you too, as we're cracking into the truthfulness of this notion, attractions and rides are simply not the only thing you are doing on this trip. It is impacting a portion, which you can strategize against with using lightning lanes, with hitting, you know,

[00:36:15] times of the day where the park may be less crowded, tracking wait times in the apps. Like there are ways to strategize against the long wait or, or make it so that you're only waiting in very few of the lines. But what about all of the other things that make your trip so magical? The pool at your resort, the dining reservation, you know, with meeting the characters, having that snack, the shows. Yeah.

[00:36:38] Yeah. I mean, the rides are a very important part of your trip and they are going to be something you talk about. The, the big ones are going to be something you talk about, especially, but when you come back and you're talking, and I talked about this last week too, when you're talking to your coworkers about that family vacation to Disney, you just took, you're not just going to be listing the rides you rode. You're going to be talking about magical moments that happened between,

[00:37:04] I promise you things you cannot prepare and plan for and things that are going to be less impacted by the crowds. So if that is something that's really scary to you, study, talk to an agent and strategize against the crowds, but be prepared for other things to matter on your trip as well. Yes. That's right. So, so how truthful is a crowded fear or allergy? I would feel comfortable giving this a five because there are certain times of the year

[00:37:31] that it is really crowded and there are other times of the year that it's really not. You need to talk to your travel agent. Yes. Because there are options. I think it just keeps, it should keep the fear and the hesitancy, it should keep it pretty low, you know, because there's options. You don't, you know, unless there's a, this is the one and only time I have to go, you still should feel quite confident being able to just jump in. Like I said, I kind of think of

[00:37:57] good planning as like a Zyrtec. Like when you know it's allergy season, you know, you're going to be, this is the spring, you know, pollen's out everywhere. I know, but I have to be outside. You, you prepare for it, right? You take, you know, you got to take that Zyrtec. You know, you're going to just have, have a tissue in your pocket. Like it's just, okay, you're going to be okay. And you prepare for it. And I feel like because there are preparations and strategies that

[00:38:22] can really get you through, it's an, it should be a low number that, that, uh, I mean, I was thinking five might be a little high. I think you can, you can go in the three range. Yeah. I mean, the crowd, the truth of this is that crowds should not be ruining your time. There are like two times a year where the crowds are going to really impact your trip. And that's like Christmas to new year's, maybe Thanksgiving, like that end of Thanksgiving week and spring break.

[00:38:50] And, and honestly, we've been on spring break. We've done at least one park day on spring break the last three years and it's been fine. I noticed that we didn't say during the cheer competitions or the dance competitions. And we didn't say during the run Disney, you know, events, those don't really tend to clutter it up too bad. No. Yeah. That's, that's, that's giving yourself the worry of 10 tissues when really you need three, you know, the believability here is three. I agree

[00:39:18] with Stacy. Okay. Let's do another one and then we'll take another break. Number four, not going to Disney because planning a Disney world vacation is too complicated and too overwhelming. Oh my goodness. We don't even have to spend any time on this one because this is like, you got tissues for this one. You could just stuff those back in your bottom of your bag because you don't even need them. Like, yeah, I agree. I think first of all, believability is like a 10 because I think people that don't know Disney, it's hard for us to step into their shoes,

[00:39:48] but I think people that don't know Disney would look at this as being as complicated as Europe. There is lingo. There are, there are deadlines. There are things you have to consider that you don't even know you have to consider. And I think people that have never been to Europe, it's a very intimidating and overwhelming thing to think about traveling abroad. And I think people that have never been to Disney feel similarly. I think this is a 10. Attimidation. Attimidation is a great word. I do think it's intimidating. It's almost one of my

[00:40:14] favorite type of clients when I'm a travel agent and I'm talking to someone who's really afraid of this. It's kind of one of my favorite things because it is like, I see them carrying around a box of tissue and I'm like, just throw it away. Just throw it away. We got you. You know, it's just such a, it feels like such a freedom to have the confidence. And it's part of why I love what we do on this podcast. I love giving people the reassurance and the fear and anxieties and

[00:40:41] the intimidation factor. It can rob you of so much joy. And I just, I want this one out of all of them. I want it to just go away. Particularly if you're working with a travel agent, you know, of course, we love being travel agents, but there are so many wonderful agencies and agents out there. Getting involved with a travel agent will make it so such a breeze and so enjoyable, not just keep you from having to use these tissues. You know, you're not just avoiding

[00:41:08] sneezing. You're actually feeling well and happy and great. I mean, this is, this one's easy. This one's an easy one. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's believable. And I think the truthfulness is a one. I think it's believable out of 10 and the truthfulness is a one. Big swing. Yep. You're paying for a travel agent. It's built into your cost, whether you use it or not. Take advantage of the complimentary service, the included service, and don't miss your deadline. Don't miss your dining date. Don't miss understanding lightning lanes. Don't miss

[00:41:38] capitalizing on the best opportunity to strategize the best you possibly can for your specific trip, right? Go to Disney World. If that's what's stopping you, if that's the one of the seven that's stopping you, let it go and go. Yeah. I, I do feel like as travel agents, it's very easy for us to be like, this is a one out of 10 because we know the value of the services that we offer to our clients. If you are someone planning on your own and you're not using a travel agent, I mean,

[00:42:03] I'll admit you probably will get caught up in a few snares. Like it, it might be a little more complicated for you. You might not know about the stroller rules. You might not know which lightning lanes you should grab, right? Like that's the value of working with a travel agent. So I don't necessarily want to say that the truthfulness score is one because if you're working with a travel agent, it's probably one. But if you're not working with a travel agent, it's probably going

[00:42:26] to be higher. Yep. Absolutely. It's fair. Yeah. Okay. So, so far we've come up with four reasons why families are not going to Disney World. And I believe that these are real reasons why people are dragging their feet and not going either. They believe it or somebody in their family believes it. We've done a great job explaining why these are not truthful things. They're believable, but they're not truthful. We're going to break down three more reasons that I'm sure are holding

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[00:43:48] that the podcast sent you and she will see you there. Okay. We've got three more reasons to break down exactly why people are not going to Disney World. And it's a silly, silly thing. The next one on our list is Disney World is not a real vacation because it's exhausting. Oh, the, the old joke. It's a, there ain't no tired like Disney tired. Sure. It's legit. I mean, how many times,

[00:44:15] how many times have we been guilty of saying I need a vacation from my, after my vacation? I mean, I can't even deny it. I can't even deny it. It's, it's, it's real. So believability. I mean, we're up there probably about 10 tissues, honestly. Yeah. We need 10 tissues for this sneeze attack. We do. Yes. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yes. God bless you. Gesundheit. It's real. This is very well something

[00:44:42] that you do need to consider to a degree, right? I mean, to, does it prevent you from going? No, like, no, this is one of those things where you just, you just do it because it's, it's another investment, right? You might be exhausted. You will be exhausted. I can't even deny it. Especially those first timers. You're trying to figure it out. The most concentration you'll have focused on everything. You're going to, your brain is going to be tired, not only just thinking about decisions,

[00:45:12] but like taking in all that Disney world has to offer. It's so overstimulating. It really is. Yes. It is a lot. So yes, it's exhausting. And I know it is quite a blessing that my husband and I, we go enough. Um, the most recent trip we had, we napped more than we have ever napped. Like we were hitting those parks so hard first thing in the morning and we would go, go, go. And it was fantastic. But by lunchtime, get that lunch, head out of the parks, back to our room, take a little

[00:45:40] nap. And then we head back to the parks for some dinner and fireworks, you know, some sort of nighttime entertainment. It was amazing, but we were so tired. Disney is so exhausting, but you have, if every single thing you do at Disney is exhausting, then you have gone wrong somewhere. It's funny to me that Stacy, you're talking about how on your more recent trips, you're taking a nap so that you can rest in the middle of the day. But how many times have I been with you guys? And I'm

[00:46:06] like, the thing that I miss the most about my pre mom life is I could sleep into an ungodly hour of the afternoon if I wanted to. And I'm like, guys, I'm going to be kid free. I'm just going to sleep in until like 11 noon if I want to. And do I ever do that? No, your energy is going to be different. Yeah. Yeah. It's your energy is going to be different. And I'm going to say again, if you,

[00:46:32] if every single thing you're doing is exhausting, you're doing something wrong. You should have time to sit and take in a meal. You should have time to sit and take in a show. You should have down days where you are hanging out at your resort and taking advantage of the pool. Um, you know, the bartenders that, and those servers that come to your chairs at select resort. I do think this isn't, this is an overlap with some of our other things because sometimes we are cutting our trip a

[00:46:59] little bit shorter because of budget. We are trying to cram things in, you know, as much as we can park warrior mentality, you know, like we're going to get in every single minute that we have paid for here. And I get that. I am sensitive to that. I have been that mom for sure, for sure. Sometimes that's just how you do it. And it's okay. You can do that because you will have a burst of energy that you

[00:47:24] don't realize is inside of you. Um, when you see the excitement of your kids and when you have that perfect dining reservation coming up, you know, like you just are, you're excited and you're going to go, or you're finally getting to, to go ride guardians, you know, like there's just, that's a very motivating factor in my life. I don't know about y'all, but I can get up early. I think that the truthfulness behind this is probably like a six out of 10. And the reason

[00:47:50] I think that is because I do believe that there are some exhausting elements. And I think after the trip, you're pretty tired, but I agree so much with what you all are saying about the energy that actually lives inside of you once you're there. And there are so many things that you should be taking advantage of that offer you the opportunity for some downtime, um, and escape from the overstimulation, things like that. So while it is believable and it actually is exhausting in a lot of ways, you know, everything shouldn't be. And this vacation is a little different than, you know,

[00:48:19] this isn't a laying on the beach every single day, but it doesn't mean you can't be laying some of the day. Yeah. Yep. Just push through. Hey, if you got to take those tissues with you, you'll be all right. Yeah. Six out of 10. It'd be worth it. It'd be worth it. Yep. Yep. All right. Number six, I'm not going to Disney world because Disney isn't fun for adults. It's only for kids. Boo. Boo. Who has that mentality? That's a boo boo that I don't even want to do. The people that have that mentality are the people that are like anti-Disney adult that think it's like

[00:48:46] weird and they're just wrong. I mean, that's what's true. Just get out of here. Yeah. You're wrong. I won't throw a box of cleaning at you. Yeah. Disney adults exist. And because they are like picked on so frequently in social media, I feel like the believability score on this might be a little lower because Disney adults are a thing, right? Because you've seen it. You're saying like,

[00:49:10] because people have seen Disney adults enough that I, but are we talking about, I think it's believable because it's preventing somebody from going. Yeah. It's believable because the people that aren't, the people that are saying this aren't going, they're not Disney adults. And they're the people that think Disney adults are weird. They're the people that look at us like, what are you doing? I see what you mean. Y'all, you've surely, I mean, because this is not a small number of people I've talked to, but there have definitely been, and I think that's part of what this episode has even focused on.

[00:49:40] There's one particular dad at our church that the mom has, she's so happy. She says, he is finally a Disney dad. He is, he is all in. And he's the one asking me about Halloween party tickets. And he's the one asking me about when can we go back? And he's the one, you know, so he was, he's a new believer, right? He was like, I'm not going to enjoy this. I'm going to go because we have to take the kids. And his idea and his mentality was it's a one and done.

[00:50:07] And now he's all in, you know, he is ready to go back. He's the one she says, I don't even have to do anything anymore. He's listening to the podcast. In fact, he may be listening to this story right now. And yes, I am talking. Hey, so it's just, it's really a fun, it's fun to watch that evolution in people. And, and I think that it has certainly, it's not necessarily going to be

[00:50:31] a situation that every family is, is having somebody that's fighting them on it. But there is quite many families have one person or more people that are like, yeah, we're not going to do this. Yeah. I mean, I think definitely a high believability. I think this is nine or 10 out of 10. Yeah. What do you think? Nine? I'm going to say nine. Yeah. I don't think it's like the prevailing reason people aren't going, but it's certainly high up there for adults that just

[00:50:59] don't get it. And the truth is who doesn't love a thrill ride? Who doesn't love a good quality show? Who doesn't love a good meal? Who doesn't love a themed lounge? Who doesn't love, you know, you can take your drink out and about and walk around with it, you know? Um, who doesn't, who doesn't love a pool where people are serving you at your chair? Like, come on, this is my wife and I, when we go just the two of us or us girls, when we go together, some of the best couple night

[00:51:27] stints I can recall, you know, relaxing, enjoyable, fun. You're not maybe doing all the things you would do with your little ones and that's okay. There's another side of Disney. It's super fun. I mean, and it's not even just that it's okay. It's like something to celebrate. Like, Hey guys, there's some things you don't have to do when you don't have your kids. It's great. Or some things, or some things you get to do, like go to the champagne bar in France and just hang out

[00:51:53] there and drink a flight, you know, go to Victoria and Albert's. And I know we're talking Disney world here for sure. And that's a huge part of this, but even thinking about like, there's Disney cruises available, right? And even if you take your kids, the fact that you have this space and this opportunity to be just adults in the Disney sphere of things, right? In your Disney world, the Disney

[00:52:17] bubble, the Disney cruise line, there's just so many opportunities to be an adult. I'm not even saying you have to be a Disney adult, the quote unquote Disney adult. You can be an adult at Disney world and have a splendid time really relaxing. If you, if that's what you want out of a vacation, do not think that Disney won't allow that. Disney absolutely has the opportunities for you to have

[00:52:41] an enjoyable vacation as an adult. I have to tell you a really funny story. I'm actually going to Disney this week on an adults only trip with our friends from the getaway club. And one of the things on the agenda is geo 82, which is the new lounge in spaceship earth. It's an adults only lounge. You can't go whenever you have kids. And so Matt coincidentally came to me this week and he goes,

[00:53:09] Katie, I heard that there's a lounge in spaceship earth. Did you know that there's a lounge there? Yes, Matt. I did know that there's a lounge there and actually I'm going to it this week. And he goes, well, why haven't we gone before? I said, because we always have the kids. Sorry, Matt.

[00:53:35] You're going to have Matt. Matt's going to show up at Disney by himself one day and go to geo 82. He might. And maybe he should. Yeah, that'd be great. I think for those adults that, you know, aren't on board with the Disney adult or just don't get it, you know, put a couple of tissues in your bag and confront your allergy head on. It's like a three out of 10. It's like those little, those little plastic packages of tissue where it's just exactly what I'm imagining. Yeah. Out of your grandma's purse. That's all. That's all you need for this. It's like the little wadded one.

[00:54:05] You shove up your sleeve. So you just have it in case. The sneeziest episode is too meta for my actual life. Like this is, this is just coming too close for me. So I, I give it a three. I give it a three out of 10 on truthfulness. Okay. Yes. Three feels pretty good. You want to lower it? Very, but sure. I mean, I don't know. Do you want to lower it? I don't know why it needs to be anything at all. Honestly. I can lower it. Let's make it a two. I think there are some adults that just on principle will be like, no way. I'm not going to Disney. It's just an adult. Like I just think daddy's this.

[00:54:34] Grumpy episode. That's the grumpiest. I agree with you. I agree with you. Okay. And last but not least, our seventh reason that we know you M&Ms are not going to Disney world. I've already been before. There's no reason to go back or I'm waiting until something new open. And this is a 10 on 10 for believability. I mean, it really is. People are saying I've already been, we checked it off the list. Well, hello. It's changing all the time, which

[00:55:01] brings us into, I'm waiting for something new, but you can't wait on something new because as soon as that new thing opens, there's something else new that's coming. And so then what are you going to do? Wait on that. And then that brings us back to have already been before, but it doesn't matter because now there's all this new. And so it's all connected. Yeah. Disney was just approved. I think this week to open two more theme parks within the next like 10 or 15 years. And if I'm waiting until Disney's done developing, I'm like,

[00:55:30] oh, well, I've already waited a year and a half for Villain's Land and it's not going to come to fruition for another year and a half. And, but then after that, there's going to be potentially a new park. Well, I mean, gosh, you're going to wait your whole life. Yeah. And when you're waiting on things, you're missing out, you know, it just really comes to like, we don't, I don't want to get all dark and stuff, but like our days are numbered, you know, sometimes it's, it's something

[00:55:56] really sad that you don't know is coming. Sometimes it's just that your kids have grown up. I mean, which is also a really sad that you do know is coming. You know, I just feel like a procrastination on things like this can really bite you. I think we've all had the experience in life where we should have, we should have taken the trip. And that is one of the saddest things about in life to me is the regret of time when it has run out. Do you ever walk around

[00:56:24] the park and you see like adults that are older than you that have that first visitor pin on? And you're like, part of me wants to congratulate you for finally getting here. Like, yes. But part of me also feels so sad that it took you this long to get here. Yeah. Yeah. And I hope they don't feel sad. Like I hope they're like not thinking, Oh, I wish I would have come sooner. So I'd have more time to come again. Let's be real. You cannot see and do everything in one trip. So if you're saying

[00:56:52] I've been before, well, so what? Yes. Certainly didn't do and see it all. And through the eyes of a first timer, you're running and doing so much and you're, I got to do this and I got to do this and I got to do that. Once you're on the second, third, fourth, multiple trip mentality, it's less stressful, right? Because you're like, Oh, I've done that. I don't, you know, I don't ride. The only ride I ride every single time I go is guardians at this point. If I get to ride flight of passage, that's great. You know, if I get to ride tower of terror, but to be honest, at spring break,

[00:57:20] the line was too long and we just simply couldn't wait. And that made me really sad, but it was also okay. It's strange to me that Disney seems to be the only place that people are like, well, I've already been there, done that. So I don't need to do it again. If I grew up going to Kennywood and I'm like, well, I've already ridden the Thunderbolt. I don't need to ride it again. Like what? Nobody, nobody does that. No. Yeah. And the feeling is just so happy and magical and special. It's like,

[00:57:46] who doesn't want to feel that way all the time? Yeah. Just as some enlightenment as to what's coming, we have the tropical Americas at animal kingdom. That's coming sometime next year in 2027 piston peak national park and magic kingdom. That's leaning into cars to be a new ride in there. The new villains themed land in magic kingdom, which I believe is slated to go beyond, uh, like where big Thunder Mountain is that I just can't even imagine how I hope Disney takes a long time to open that

[00:58:16] because I just need it to be, it has to be perfect. It has to be so good. And then monstropolis coming to Hollywood studios that also has to hit, um, that is going to be incredible. The door. So there are so many amazing things coming. It's going to be like 2029 before all of these projects are fully open and developed. I would, I would guesstimate. Right. And we'll have other announcements of other things

[00:58:43] coming by the time that's here. So exactly. You know, I, the only believability I really have in this range, I know we said it's pretty hot, but the idea of someone who has been before not wanting to go again, the only time I can really believe it is if they went with some type of situation where they did not get to experience it well, because more often I hear we thought this was one and done

[00:59:11] and now we're going back. I mean, it's just, it's very rare. And I'm sad for the people who have been the one time and they're like, Oh, it was terrible. I'm never going again. I'm like, Oh, something terribly went wrong. Yeah. You got to go again. Something went wrong. Now you really have to go back. Please go back. I have a friend that went and stayed theme park view club level at the poly park hoppers, you know, VIPs like did the works and didn't, you know, he didn't like it. And like

[00:59:37] you said, Stacy, I think he's just like a person for the grumpy episode. Like he was just, he was nitpicking like the picture of him with his family on mind train. They're all like laughing and giggling and he's like, it's the funniest picture. Like it's, I was like, well, look at you on this ride. Like you were clearly trying to not like this. You know what I mean? And I don't think he'll ever go back. I really don't. And so it's, he's, he's a few, I could see making it a nine out of 10 because I don't think it's that believable that a lot of people that go the one time are not

[01:00:04] wanting to go again. It's very few, but the I'm waiting for something has a lot more grasp to it. So I think like a nine out of 10, but truthfulness, it's like a one out of 10 because you did not see and do everything in that one trip. And if you wait for everything to be open, you're going to be waiting forever. So I think truthfulness it's, you know, it's a one. You need no tissue. At all. And you know what? For anybody listening to all you M&Ms, the magic word is tissues.

[01:00:29] Tissues. It's perfect. Uh, okay. I, I think this is important to have as a conversation, especially on this podcast and in this space, because we are helping people plan their Disney trips every day, but we also want to help people get to Disney. And I understand that there are real factors out there that are stopping you, but how true are those factors? So we're going to review our list and then we're going to play a little game, which I'm really excited about. First, the reasons you're not going to Disney world. Disney is only for people with huge vacation

[01:00:57] budgets. That's believable. 10 out of 10. We hear it all the time. Truth is it's not that truthful, probably a four out of 10. We understand that it's expensive, but there are so many strategies, promotions, and opportunities to make this work for your family. It gets a four, four tissues. Number two, my kids are too young to enjoy Disney world. Believable. Nine out of 10 people think it's going to be hard, but the truth is momming is easier at Disney world. And these memories are also about you. You don't have to pay for your babies. So you're going to save money and taking them while

[01:01:27] they're little is to your benefit. The truth is it's a one out of 10. Number three, Disney crowds are too much and the lines are too long. The trip will be miserable. Believable about an eight out of 10. Yes. We see the pictures. We see the clickbait. It is busy. There are times of year where it's wall to wall people. But the truth is that's the minority of the time. The majority of the time, there are less, less busy places and ways to strategize the lines. And you're not going to

[01:01:55] be just focusing on the attractions with the long lines and the wall to wall crowds and the believability is an eight, but the truth is it's more of a three. Number four, planning a Disney world vacation is too complicated and overwhelming. That is believable. 10 out of 10 to somebody that's never been in the lingo and the strategies. It feels like planning a trip internationally. It feels like you're heading abroad to a different world and you really are. So it's a 10 out of 10 in believability. The truth is you are paying for a travel agent, whether you use one or not. So the

[01:02:23] truth is a one. Take advantage of what's included, have some help planning your trip and don't let yourself be overwhelmed. Number five, Disney world is not a real vacation because it's too exhausting. 10 out of 10. We're even guilty of saying it on the believability scale. We even say it, but the truth is if every single thing you do at Disney is exhausting, you're doing something wrong. There are ways to relax. There are ways to take breaks. There are places to stay that take

[01:02:52] your mind away, take you out of the stimulation. And the truth scale there is more of a six out of 10. Number six, Disney world is only for kids. That's a nine out of 10 in the believability scale. I think a lot of people think that kids are the only reason to go to Disney and that everything is catered towards kids, but with Michelin star restaurants, adult only lounges, tons of themed lounges everywhere, adult experiences, thrill rides, and just the ability to retreat from your adulthood

[01:03:21] for a moment. The truth is it's more of a two out of 10. We can't think of many adults except for our most grumpy of friends that wouldn't enjoy at least a couple of nights away with their friends or significant other to enjoy Disney world without kiddos. And number seven, there's no reason to return to Disney world. I've been before, or I'm waiting on something new to open. And of course that is believable. We hear it all the time. Nine out of 10 on the believability scale. You think it, you think it's true, but the truth is if you're waiting for something new to open, you're going to

[01:03:50] be waiting forever because there's always going to be something new in the works. And if you've been before, I can guarantee you, you did not see and do everything. You had an experience that was probably rushed and chaotic. And this next trip is going to come with far more relaxation. So the truth to that is it's a one out of 10, you need one tissue and you need to move on. And now I think that we just gave everybody the ammunition and the tissues that they need to, or what Stacey say,

[01:04:18] we gave everybody the Xerotec they need. That's right. Taking away the allergies so that you can convince your family and friends that are holding you back of why you can take that Disney trip. All right. We gave me a good old allergy shot. Let's go. No more, no more allergies. You are not sneezy to going to Disney and you are able now to have that argument with somebody that wants to have it with you. Before we wrap here, we're going to play a quick game. A couple, couple rounds

[01:04:43] playing Kiss, Crown, Curse, naming three things, any Disney topic to challenge each of you to. Kiss, it's good. I like it. It's a good time. Crown, it's great. Long-term loyalty to this one and Curse, it's the worst of the three. Going to give it a poison apple. Okay. Kiss, Crown, Curse. If you'd like, I'll go first. Or if one of you want to go first, you can. I mean, I have my list. Let's go,

[01:05:08] Stacey. You give us one. Okay. I'm because I have three. I have one that's asking both of you and then I have one for each of you. Okay. All right. You go for both of us first. All right. So the first one is between Teacups, the Teacups Ride, Small World, and Under the Sea. This is definitely a callback to an episode that I had a really hard time with listening to you guys argue about. I want to now hear. Absolutely. This is fantastic. Give me a Kiss, Crown, Curse to the Teacups,

[01:05:37] Small World, and Under the Sea. Easy peasy. I am cursing the Teacups. Yes. I can't even believe it's on the list. This is ridiculous. I am kissing Under the Sea and I am crowning Small World, baby. That's right. I agree all the way. I would crown the Teacups. I would kiss Under the Sea and I would curse Small World. That's ridiculous. Wow. That's so absurd.

[01:06:06] Come on. It is absurd. No, it's not. Are you kidding me? No, I am not. I have been very vocal about this. Okay. All right. I got one for both of you. You ready? Okay. Kiss, Crown, or Curse between Disney villains. You have Ursula, Jafar, and Hades. Curse, Hades, Kiss, Jafar, Crown, and Hades. I'm Ursula. What about you, Stace? I was jotting down, and that's exactly, I was

[01:06:36] literally writing it as she was saying it. Yeah. I mean, Ursula's the queen here. She gets that crown for sure. Jafar is a good time. Yeah. Jafar's a good time. We're going to kiss Jafar. And Hades? You don't think Hades is a good time? He's so funny. I have no real fondness for him. All right. I have one for Katie. I have one for Katie. Okay. All right. Meeting

[01:06:59] Pinocchio, Garden Grill, and Carousel Progress pre-retovation. You did not tell me this was torture hour. This is what we call low-hanging fruit. It's just a low-hanging fruit joke to grab this for you. This is so mean. I was not mean in my question. You are all ill-spirited. Okay. This is terrible. Okay. So, I have to crown Carousel Progress in its iteration that

[01:07:27] we just said goodbye to. I have to kiss Pinocchio, and that means I have to curse Garden Grill. That's terrible. That's so funny. Well, let me give you an easier one, I think. Okay. This is going to, this is focusing on Pinocchio, but I'm giving you three options that are strictly Pinocchio, okay? Out of your options for kiss, crown, or curse, I want to know Pinocchio Disney cartoon, Pinocchio meet and greet. You're absolutely adorable Pinocchio lounge fly. Okay. Pinocchio

[01:07:57] lounge fly, Pinocchio meet and greet, the animated movie. Yes. Yeah. Because some of those other live action crazy things, we won't even go there. Okay. Well, you have to crown the animated film because that's the whole reason to love Pinocchio to begin with, right? Okay. And you have to kiss the meet and greet because that's, that's like the best thing, but you can only love that if you love the film. Okay. And that means I have to curse my Pinocchio lounge fly, which

[01:08:25] I have many. Yeah. Oh, do you have multiple? I have multiple of the same one in case I damage it, but then I have other designs that are Pinocchio too. I did not know that. Yeah. Okay. I have one for anybody that wants to answer. Anybody that wants to answer this one. Chef Mickey's, a turkey leg,

[01:08:46] and blue milk. Oh, oh my. Oh, I think I know. Gosh. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. Chef Mickey's, a turkey leg, and blue milk. Well, I'm, I'm crowning blue milk because I love it and I'm here for it. I want it every time I go to Hollywood Studios. It's delicious. I'm gonna have to kiss Chef Mickey's then and curse

[01:09:09] the turkey leg. Wow. Nobody wants the turkey leg. Well, I'm, I'm kissing the turkey leg because I can, I can deal if I'm hungry and I needed some protein. I can deal. I will make it happen. I can make it happen. Um, I will crown Chef Mickey's because, hey, you're at least getting a good meal and you're hanging out with some fun characters. Good. Good. Easy, easy, easy to crown. Out of these

[01:09:38] options, crown and Chef Mickey's for sure. And I am cursing. That blue milk is already cursed. What? Blue milk is iconic. It's great. No, it's, it's, it's, it's honestly the name. Have you only ever had it? Like, how have you had it? If you've gotten it at, um, Oga's, it's not the same as if you get it at the milk stand, which is, would you say is better? The milk stand is better because it's frozen. The people in my group that had the milk stand milk threw up, literally threw up

[01:10:03] afterwards. Allie, you're so dramatic. It's just a true story. There are people that drink it all the time and love it. Sure. No, thank you. They're just not my, they're just not, they weren't in my group. Yeah. Ugh. All right, Allie, one more for you. And then, um, and it's similar to Katie's Pinocchio. Uh, this is a real throwback. What did you say is the best animated animal film? Lion King. So we're

[01:10:32] going to focus on the Lion King here. Are you really bringing this back? Because I can't even believe this is a topic of conversation. The Lion King is the best Disney animal movie of all time. But I'm not comparing it to other animal movies. I am giving you Lion King, the movie. It's similar to Pinocchio question. Lion King, the movie, Lion King, the show at Animal Kingdom. And this is, this is a deep pull here. Uh, the Broadway costume display at Epcot when

[01:11:01] it comes through. It is a touring. I thought you were going to say the Broadway show. Um, I was trying to keep it at Disney World, but at Disney World. Got you. No, no, I got you. Okay. Uh, so I think this is kind of easy for me. I'm going to crown the Lion King, the movie, the best animal Disney animated film of all time for animals. Uh, I'm going to kiss the festival of the Lion King because live performers bringing this show to life, of course.

[01:11:27] And I will curse the costume display, uh, only because the live performers aren't in the costumes doing them. I will say that if Broadway show were on the table, I would have crowned that because the costuming and the Broadway show itself, uh, is Disney peak for me. I just saw it for the fourth or fifth time with a bunch of my dancers a couple of weeks ago. And gosh, just every time it's just perfect. Every time that is Disney peak

[01:11:56] talented, talented, talented bunch of people. Yeah. So good. I got one more for you guys. Okay. You ready? Kiss crown or curse? Big thunder? Tiana's and space mountain. So, Oh, this is a tough one. Um, this is really hard. Let's see. I'm going to curse. I'm going to curse Tiana's only because I don't like getting wet. I really, really don't like it. The ride is amazing and it's adorable, but I really hate being wet. Like I don't just know. Yeah.

[01:12:24] So that's gotta be my curse. Yeah. Um, I will kiss thunder. I will crown space. I got a soft spot for space. I just can't help it. Oh, I know. And honestly, I'm, I'm kind of thinking about cursing for that though, just because I was, I would have cursed it. The older I get, the more difficult it gets. Yeah. So I was going to say I'll, I would maybe go curse space mountain. I would kiss Tiana's, uh, it's a fun little thing, you know, but I mean, long-term my loyalty to the

[01:12:54] royalty of big thunder mountain. It's, it's a crown jewel of the park, especially now it's so good with its refurb and it's so smooth. I like it a little bit. Um, yeah, so it's, it's fun. All right, friends. Well, that was really, really fun. If you're thinking about going to Disney world, don't be allergic to a refurbishment that might be coming or might not. Don't wait for things. Don't wait for kids to age into it. Don't wait. Just go make the decision and go. That was really

[01:13:23] fun. That was part two in a seven part series. We got another dwarf coming your way, a topic that's going to help break down another planning feature for your Disney vacation. We've got your back for all your planning needs as always, and bring your opinions to our Facebook community, just as you do every single week. We appreciate the conversation so much. Join us on Facebook. That's moms behind the magic where the conversation keeps rolling every week, episode after episode. And we want to hear the reasons why people in your life are telling you not to go to Disney world. So we can

[01:13:51] debunk those as well. If we didn't cover it today, we can cover it there. So we will see you in that community and that's going to do it for us in another episode. And until the next time we're sending you lots of fun, love and joy, and we'll see you real soon. Allie has abandoned us. She decided she's not doing this anymore. She's going to get her own tissues. Oh, I thought y'all would just

[01:14:17] continue talking. Yeah. Okay. So sorry, I was running. You pulling something out of your plants there, Stacey? You got something hiding? I feel like it's kind of flat. It looks flat. You have the most beautiful silver streak though in your hair when you turn your head, the light hitting it. Oh really? Yeah, right there. No, it's in the, it's in the, it's right under your headphones. Yep. I can't see it. It's beautiful. It's my goal. I'm going to let my hair go silver and I hope

[01:14:44] it's shiny. And I get older. I never see that. My kids keep picking on me because my purple faded to silver and they're like, mom, why is your hair white? Dive in today to the next dwarf that we're going to talk about. And I think it's. No, you have to say, no, you have to record. I know. I know. I was just redoing the segue in and I was just going to record it live, like in the conversation. But it said before you segue in. I know. I was, I was ending

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